Please just add tree-style tabs feature to Firefox (and Chrome). This is a stellar way to handle tabs on modern wide monitors. It's much, much easier to scan a list than it is to scan a bunch of icons, page images, or (as today) trying to scan two-character scrunched titles across the top.
Tab Candy: Mozilla Labs is making Firefox tabs sweet
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Re: Tab Candy: Mozilla Labs is making Firefox tabs sweet
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Dragging tabs between windows works for me in both Firefox 3.6 and 4.0b3pre, with a clean profile (no extensions). You have to drop the tab into the tab bar area (just like Chrome 5 - I don't know if other versions of Chrome are different).
It only works if you're dragging a tab into another tab area. You can't drag a tab into window without tabs (only 1 tab hence no tab area). You also cannot drag a window (only 1 tab) into another window. FF does have some subset of Chrome's functionality, but you cannot use it like Tab Candy to easily organize sets of tabs. Which is the whole point of the post.
Firefox and Chrome have the exact same functionality here, unless you turn off "Always show the tab bar" in the Firefox prefs. (It is turned on by default in Firefox 3.5 and later.)
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#33"We need a way to organize browsing, to see all of our tabs at once, and focus on the task at hand. In short, we need a way to get back control of our online lives."
Will power? Priorities?
Reducing friction or eliminating annoyances is not always a good thing, and may not accomplish what you want. Worse, it may give you undesirable side-effects.
For example, people complain about freeway traffic, how it takes too long to drive from your home at X to shopping at Y. So city planners go off and widen existing freeways, and maybe build new ones. For a while things are great; little traffic, and it's easy to get around.
Before too long, though, you find that traffic is no better than it was before. But there's lots of new housing construction in your area. Seems the promise of easy access encouraged people to keep living far out from the city. You still have bad traffic, plus more people, and worse air quality.
Had there been no attempt to reduce the friction of traffic there would likely be incentives to drive less often and fewer miles. There would be more opportunity for stores opening up closer to where you live; more locally businesses would thrive.
Likewise, maybe the annoyance of managing large numbers of tabs is a good thing. It's a reminder that maybe you're getting carried away and need to adjust your focus.
(Raise your hand if you've ever been silently relieved when a tab-heavy browser crashed and you couldn't recover them.)
Re: Tab Candy: Mozilla Labs is making Firefox tabs sweet
#34Looks like they've re-invented the concept of "windows." Isn't there a nifty piece of software provided by the OS called a window manager that's supposed to do this sort of thing?
They haven't exactly reinvented desktop windows, it is just that the browser is turning into a full-fledged desktop. First you just had single windows and "multi-tasking" wasn't possible, you just opened new browser for every new thing you wanted to do and had history. Then they added the tab bar which is basically a taskbar. Now they're getting into virtual desktops and using zooming for navigating hierarchies. Of c…
Thats why I think I would still continue to use multiple windows and spaces. It's easy to stay in the mindset of work, with work related tabs and an IDE in the space. Theres no temptation to look at "unproductive work" because it doesn't exist.
Plus I'm using chrome but that's for other reasons.
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#35I group my tabs in separate windows and let my window manager take care of managing them. Maybe this is good in some Chrome OS style netbook? Sure, the contextual search (or whatever it was) seemed cool but elementary tasks like organizing my tabs/windows should be simple. Soon I'll have to switch my mental mode just to get my head to this fancy tab-organize mode.
I agree with yason. I rather enjoy having segregated spaces, for work, normal, university etc. That way I'm looking at articles related to work, I have the ability to switch to an IDE and do work. The only other option is to have everything in 1 space and that's not preferable.
Re: Tab Candy: Mozilla Labs is making Firefox tabs sweet
#36"We need a way to organize browsing, to see all of our tabs at once, and focus on the task at hand. In short, we need a way to get back control of our online lives." Will power? Priorities? Reducing friction or eliminating annoyances is not always a good thing, and may not accomplish what you want. Worse, it may give you undesirable side-effects. For example, people complain about freeway traffic, how it takes too lo…
"Probably didn't need to read those 50 tabs of reddit anyway before my exam"
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#37"Worse, how many of us keep tabs open as reminders of something we want to do or read later?"
Indeed I do. One of these days I'll get around to adding an extension that allows me to queue links without opening them in tabs.
Anyway, I don't understand why Tab Candy is an improvement over simple window management. Since the introduction of tabs, I've grouped tabs by purpose into separate windows, and rather assumed that's how everyone did it. Especially now that you can easily drag tabs from one browser window to another, it's effortless. No new GUI to learn, to expensive extension to install.
Re: Tab Candy: Mozilla Labs is making Firefox tabs sweet
#38"Worse, how many of us keep tabs open as reminders of something we want to do or read later?" Indeed I do. One of these days I'll get around to adding an extension that allows me to queue links without opening them in tabs. Anyway, I don't understand why Tab Candy is an improvement over simple window management. Since the introduction of tabs, I've grouped tabs by purpose into separate windows, and rather assumed tha…
I definitely understand the windowing you do.
I, on the other hand, despise multiple windows for firefox. It's hate learned from IE I suppose.
In my case, I use TreeStyle Tabs. The tree function is vital to working.
I think Tab Candy can combine these two concepts somewhat effectively, however, Mozilla should focus on speed, reliability, and accessibility. It's much more difficult to appease the average browser with hard facts compared to pretty videos and features, I suppose.
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#39I AM DROWNING IN INFOGUILT! Now I know the name. This looks great.
Re: Tab Candy: Mozilla Labs is making Firefox tabs sweet
#40Looks like they've re-invented the concept of "windows." Isn't there a nifty piece of software provided by the OS called a window manager that's supposed to do this sort of thing?
But unlike normal OS-level window managers - even ones with very nice features like Exposé - Tab Candy gives you a single overview of all your "windows" and the sub-windows (tabs) nested inside them. And you can interact with the "windows" and change their contents from the Tab Candy overview, which you can't do from Exposé or similar. And the naming, the simple physics for arranging spatial groups, etc., make this s…
I would love to see that too.