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Tab Candy: Mozilla Labs is making Firefox tabs sweet

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Re: Tab Candy: Mozilla Labs is making Firefox tabs sweet

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What's wrong with the Chrome method of opening new tabs right next to the current tab? This way related things tend to stay together. This one "feature" was why I switched to Chrome. This seems like an overly complicated solution in search of a problem.

> What's wrong with the Chrome method of opening new tabs right next to the current tab?

Firefox already does this.

Re: Tab Candy: Mozilla Labs is making Firefox tabs sweet

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Looks like they've re-invented the concept of "windows." Isn't there a nifty piece of software provided by the OS called a window manager that's supposed to do this sort of thing?

But unlike normal OS-level window managers - even ones with very nice features like Exposé - Tab Candy gives you a single overview of all your "windows" and the sub-windows (tabs) nested inside them. And you can interact with the "windows" and change their contents from the Tab Candy overview, which you can't do from Exposé or similar. And the naming, the simple physics for arranging spatial groups, etc., make this suitable for different use cases than ordinary windows.

Try it out and see. I've been using the internal Tab Candy alphas for a while now (I am a Mozilla employee) and it really adds some useful new possibilities.

In fact, I would love to see an operating system with a window manager that had more of Tab Candy's features. (GNOME hacker Jeff Waugh agrees: http://twitter.com/jdub/status/19052579869)

Re: Tab Candy: Mozilla Labs is making Firefox tabs sweet

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post #13

What's wrong with the Chrome method of opening new tabs right next to the current tab? This way related things tend to stay together. This one "feature" was why I switched to Chrome. This seems like an overly complicated solution in search of a problem.

Check Tab Mix Plus extension.

Re: Tab Candy: Mozilla Labs is making Firefox tabs sweet

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Looks like they've re-invented the concept of "windows." Isn't there a nifty piece of software provided by the OS called a window manager that's supposed to do this sort of thing?

That only works if your window manager actually manages your windows instead of just drawing them. StumpWM is a great example of what I'd call, doing it right. Plus it's hackable in CL so that's a plus. :-)

Re: Tab Candy: Mozilla Labs is making Firefox tabs sweet

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I like some of the ideas here, but I think my current browser, Conkeror (not to be confused with Konqueror), has already solved this problem. Similar to the way that Quicksilver for OS X works, I just type at it the buffer (tab) I want and it gets it for me. It would be pretty cool for it to be able figure out what the content was so I could say "camera" and it would find all the camera related stuff though...

Re: Tab Candy: Mozilla Labs is making Firefox tabs sweet

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Looks like they've re-invented the concept of "windows." Isn't there a nifty piece of software provided by the OS called a window manager that's supposed to do this sort of thing?

They haven't exactly reinvented desktop windows, it is just that the browser is turning into a full-fledged desktop. First you just had single windows and "multi-tasking" wasn't possible, you just opened new browser for every new thing you wanted to do and had history. Then they added the tab bar which is basically a taskbar. Now they're getting into virtual desktops and using zooming for navigating hierarchies. Of course, virtual desktops are used to some degree in a lot of places (mostly Linux desktops and OSX) and zooming isn't a new idea for the desktop but it hasn't been implemented in any of the big desktop systems like this before (AFAICT).

The differences are that all applications (web pages) on this desktop are more or less the same size ("document" shaped) and we tend to have a ton more of them open at once then traditional desktop applications. And they are usually text-searchable.

I've got mixed feelings about this. I've always thought tabs were cumbersome and didn't scale well but I don't really want to have to manually sort all of my tabs and push things around with the mouse, either.

Re: Tab Candy: Mozilla Labs is making Firefox tabs sweet

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post #15

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No you can't... I just tried dragging a tab into a window. Doesn't work. The whole point of tab candy is to fix this deficiency.

Dragging tabs between windows works for me in both Firefox 3.6 and 4.0b3pre, with a clean profile (no extensions). You have to drop the tab into the tab bar area (just like Chrome 5 - I don't know if other versions of Chrome are different).

Chrome allows you to drag a tab out of a window into a blank space to create a new window.

Re: Tab Candy: Mozilla Labs is making Firefox tabs sweet

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dragging tabs between windows works for me in both Firefox 3.6 and 4.0b3pre, with a clean profile (no extensions). You have to drop the tab into the tab bar area (just like Chrome 5 - I don't know if other versions of Chrome are different).

Chrome allows you to drag a tab out of a window into a blank space to create a new window.

Yup. So does Firefox. (And Opera, for that matter... Chrome did not invent these features.)

Re: Tab Candy: Mozilla Labs is making Firefox tabs sweet

#29
The fisheyetabs extension has similar goals, at least for avoiding scrolling and making tabs easier to locate (no grouping though). The implementation might not be flawless, but I'd like to think that the concept is sound.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4845/ Disclaimer: I'm the author of f.e.t.

Re: Tab Candy: Mozilla Labs is making Firefox tabs sweet

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No you can't... I just tried dragging a tab into a window. Doesn't work. The whole point of tab candy is to fix this deficiency.

Dragging tabs between windows works for me in both Firefox 3.6 and 4.0b3pre, with a clean profile (no extensions). You have to drop the tab into the tab bar area (just like Chrome 5 - I don't know if other versions of Chrome are different).

It only works if you're dragging a tab into another tab area.

You can't drag a tab into window without tabs (only 1 tab hence no tab area). You also cannot drag a window (only 1 tab) into another window.

FF does have some subset of Chrome's functionality, but you cannot use it like Tab Candy to easily organize sets of tabs. Which is the whole point of the post.

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