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Re: Google accused of racketeering in lawsuit

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Post by blammo999 »

blammo999 wrote: post #89
Teever wrote: post #85

Man it would be so terrifying going up against Google in court. How do you do research? How do you communicate with your lawyer? They know everything about what you do, when you do it, and who you do it with.

You do realize that there exists software that isn't made by Google, right? Oh, also books exist.

Like, lawyers have their own collections of research they search through, and because they're not all SV tech bros, they're not above making a phone call or meeting in person in one of their offices (and no, not the open kind).

Re: Google accused of racketeering in lawsuit

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Post by IncRnd »

pishpash wrote: post #82
StanislavPetrov wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Simple, because then they'd have to share the profits with them.

Google is big and has plenty of money. It sounds more like politics than anything financially motivated.

I'm not sure why you think politics has anything to do with these sorts of things.

What normally happens in these types of situations is the stakeholders from the company that has just seen the product get together and the boss asks a few questions, such as, "Do we need them to build this?" If nothing was put into place to protect the ip of the inventors, then the idea will frequently get stolen.

Re: Google accused of racketeering in lawsuit

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Post by goldenkey »

Teever wrote: post #85

Man it would be so terrifying going up against Google in court. How do you do research? How do you communicate with your lawyer? They know everything about what you do, when you do it, and who you do it with.

There exist other quality search engines like DuckDuckGo. As for anonymity of location: Google would most likely have someone dig through search queries done in the city of the plaintiff/lawyer. VPNs and proxies can help as well as services like Amazon Workspaces. Combining both will mask any trace of your identity pretty well from all but the big 3 government agencies.

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Re: Google accused of racketeering in lawsuit

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Post by flyGuyOnTheSly »

klodolph wrote: post #88
Teever wrote: post #85

Man it would be so terrifying going up against Google in court. How do you do research? How do you communicate with your lawyer? They know everything about what you do, when you do it, and who you do it with.

If you sue the phone company, they don't cut off your service or tap your phones.

Source on the tapping your phones part?

Re: Google accused of racketeering in lawsuit

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Post by saimiam »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #44
saimiam wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Things need to change!!! How should things change? I genuinely feel for you so keep the rest of what I'm going to say at arms distance. The way I see it, you are essentially asking people not to learn from each other. Software is not basic science where, if you discover a process or a particle, you are putting into words something outside the human brain. Software (mathematical formulations aside) describes how the…

I don't think the problem would be the learning in this scenario. The problem would be not compensating the educator.

Say I hear from you that it's possible to sync speakers and repeat this to my best engineers. Just the notion of syncing speakers reveals nothing about how it's done so neither my engineers nor I have "learnt" anything.

The engineer goes and puts together a prototype which gets enterprise buy-in and is released to the general public.

Who is the teacher in this case? I'd argue that no one taught anyone anything.

Oh, btw OP's post taught you to watch out for your intellectual property when negotiating with anyone. Will you now compensate him every time you walk into a meeting and remind yourself not to give away your trade secrets?

Re: Google accused of racketeering in lawsuit

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Post by rz2k »

contingencies wrote: post #71
paul7986 wrote: post #23

I had a similar experience with Google; a mutual NDA was signed as seen here https://goo.gl/K9Wd1U . - Feb 2013 created SpeakerBlast; turn multiple devices into one sync speaker via a URL - March 2013 Samsung released the Galaxy 4 with Group Play (same concept as SpeakerBlast) - April 2013 Google/Motorola emails/calls me asking would I sell SpeakerBlast for inclusion into the Moto X - May 2013 Fly out from Baltimore…

Thats funny, after working with most major device manfacturers on digital video for 2 years (2009-2010), I submitted a similar concept to YC in late 2010 but received no reply. My core point was mobile device manufacturers desperately need a USP and this would work nicely combined with some DSP based nearby device playlist remixing and possibly a heartbeat sense and some GPS smarts. You know for shared sports like cy…

Is there anything like AppleScript for iOS to control apps?

Traktor for iOS lets you select songs by beats per minute and adjust their speed to synchronize multiple tracks at once. If it adjusted target music tempo with heart rate, speed, rate of altitude change etc as inputs then your product would be realized.

If you've developed ideas on what are the best ways to choose tempos why not consider contacting Native Instruments?

Re: Google accused of racketeering in lawsuit

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Post by Gigablah »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #79
Bucephalus355 wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you going to put the disclaimer though in your post at the bottom?

It's somewhat obvious by the content of his post. (I do actually really appreciate when people do disclose their conflicts here. Thanks to those of you who do.) theDoug is also not wrong, to be fair. There's no situation in which a Google employee who is not a lawyer publicly commenting on a lawsuit against Google works out well for the employee. Anything he says could get his employer in additional trouble, and as a…

I'm just astounded that this needs explaining in the first place. Common sense is not that common.

Re: Google accused of racketeering in lawsuit

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Post by paul7986 »

greydata wrote: post #18

So the contention is that Google stole his idea for building design software? His representation is a bunch of patent trolls and the suit has already been going on for 3 years. The only news is now they are contending that many major Google products are based on coordinated and systematic IP theft (Search, Ads, Maps, Wallet, Hangouts, Youtube, Android). Pretty sure this is entirely bullshit. Actual lawsuit: http://di…

I met with Google ATAP in 2013 and had a similar experience. I am and have been an aspiring inventor for the past 10 years.

You can read more about my experience with Google ATAP via this post...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15422475

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