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Re: Google accused of racketeering in lawsuit

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Where are all the people who are always disclaiming to work for Google in every thread about Google? Weird you’re silent on this.

Yes please, can we please get @boulos to tell us how GCP can be seemingly used to solve this architects problem here? AWS has clearly failed!

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I had a similar experience with Google; a mutual NDA was signed as seen here https://goo.gl/K9Wd1U . - Feb 2013 created SpeakerBlast; turn multiple devices into one sync speaker via a URL - March 2013 Samsung released the Galaxy 4 with Group Play (same concept as SpeakerBlast) - April 2013 Google/Motorola emails/calls me asking would I sell SpeakerBlast for inclusion into the Moto X - May 2013 Fly out from Baltimore…

Thanks for sharing this. Sorry to hear about how you were given the run around. It reminded me of the advice from one of Paul Graham's essays: Don't Talk to Corp Dev [1] >Distractions are the thing you can least afford in a startup. And conversations with corp dev are the worst sort of distraction, because as well as consuming your attention they undermine your morale. [1] http://www.paulgraham.com/corpdev.html

This advice is gold. But it isn’t easy to overcome the temptation of imagining that any convo with any division of mega Corp is the lucky break you always hoped for.

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>Google's leadership profoundly betrayed the longtime personal trust and friendship of Apple's leadership in stealing what Steve Jobs believed were Apple's most prized possessions. You may think it’s a coincidence, but then you realize it isn’t. https://verbose.co/33

Ah yes, Steve Jobs would be quite the guy to lecture anyone about betrayls of trust and friendship.

I'm not sure why this is getting downvoted. Early on he blatantly cheated Wozniak: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/steve-wozniak-cried-jobs-kept-atari...

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Where are all the people who are always disclaiming to work for Google in every thread about Google? Weird you’re silent on this.

Since you asked, it's 11:36pm and I just got home from drinking wine with a friend. I'm making a pastrami sandwich and might fall asleep soon. Can't speak for others, though. Thanks for your curiosity. Thankfully, your honor, most of us are smart enough to know to not play unpaid internet forum lawyer.

Are you going to put the disclaimer though in your post at the bottom?

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So the contention is that Google stole his idea for building design software? His representation is a bunch of patent trolls and the suit has already been going on for 3 years. The only news is now they are contending that many major Google products are based on coordinated and systematic IP theft (Search, Ads, Maps, Wallet, Hangouts, Youtube, Android). Pretty sure this is entirely bullshit. Actual lawsuit: http://di…

Thanks for posting the link. I just read the first several pages, and I disagree with your conclusion.

This was more than a simple idea or patent. It was developed by someone with extensive experience in a vertical industry. Google actually paid to contract with him to develop a proof-of-concept, with the idea if the tech panned out and had market viability, they'd take it to market with him.

Google doesn't hire patent trolls or rely on their expertise in developing products.

The lawsuit is full of hyperbole (which hurts it in IMHO), but the underlying claim looks pretty believable.

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The article presents only one side of the story. I have never heard of Google being accused of something similar in the past. Does anyone have any pointers to similar incidents?

It also presents Google’s answer, which was

> that Attia gave Google rights to his technology “without a condition of later payment.”

They admit they did it, but claim they were in the right to do it.

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This made me question my understanding of NDAs - are they supposed to restrict usage by the party you told the secret to, or only that they can't share with others?

It depends on the NDA. But one of the important things you should always think about with a contract is your power to enforce it. Even a small lawsuit can be expensive and painful. Are you willing an able to go the distance against the defendant? If not, the language of the contract doesn't matter.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah yes, Steve Jobs would be quite the guy to lecture anyone about betrayls of trust and friendship.

I'm not sure why this is getting downvoted. Early on he blatantly cheated Wozniak: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/steve-wozniak-cried-jobs-kept-atari...

Remember when they (Adobe, Apple Inc., Google, Intel, Intuit, Pixar, Lucasfilm and eBay [1]) colluded to keep each other from competing for talent and driving up wages?

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Tech_Employee_Antitrust_L...

Re: Google accused of racketeering in lawsuit

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I had a similar experience with Google; a mutual NDA was signed as seen here https://goo.gl/K9Wd1U . - Feb 2013 created SpeakerBlast; turn multiple devices into one sync speaker via a URL - March 2013 Samsung released the Galaxy 4 with Group Play (same concept as SpeakerBlast) - April 2013 Google/Motorola emails/calls me asking would I sell SpeakerBlast for inclusion into the Moto X - May 2013 Fly out from Baltimore…

Did you patent your IP first?

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Wow this story is shocking. I want to point out it’s quite believable if you look at this situation historically. Microsoft was known for doing this exact same thing. Their tactic was to wine and dine startups, give them the “big megacorp company treatment”, ask them to divulge just a little of how they were doing what they were doing. Then they would go back to Seattle, put out an identical product 6 weeks later, an…

Google did something similar to me as I have detailed in this thread below....

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15422475

It's very relevant to this story and I think it's important for it to be told to warn other inventors how Google treats the little guy/girl!

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