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Re: Longer jail terms for viewing terror content online

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Post by sctb »

rgbrenner wrote: post #6

The blog post above adds little to the bbc article that it links to.. in fact the bbc article is clearer about what has changed -- it's not a new law (Terrorism Act 2000), and the change is from 10 years to 15 years, and it now applies to streaming terrorist videos (instead of just downloaded videos). https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-41479620 This article is also good: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/oct/03/a…

Thanks, we've updated the link from https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/2017/10/britain-c..., which points to this.

Re: Longer jail terms for viewing terror content online

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Post by dirtyaura »

pythonaut_16 wrote: post #5

This article is pretty click-baity. It claims to be about reading banned literature in the title, then when you navigate to the site it immediately says the announcement/law is actually about watching videos promoting terrorism. The main body of the article is pretty incoherent and rambling; it never really clearly states what the law is actually about. If you actually go read the linked BBC article[0], you'll find t…

The article is not click-baity. It uses analogy to make a point.

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Post by lucb1e »

pythonaut_16 wrote: post #5

This article is pretty click-baity. It claims to be about reading banned literature in the title, then when you navigate to the site it immediately says the announcement/law is actually about watching videos promoting terrorism. The main body of the article is pretty incoherent and rambling; it never really clearly states what the law is actually about. If you actually go read the linked BBC article[0], you'll find t…

> then when you navigate to the site it immediately says the announcement/law is actually about watching videos promoting terrorism.

Huh, is that somehow better? Can I not watch promotion videos for whatever reason and not go to jail? Research and journalism are obvious examples, where the politicians will say "of course those people will not get prosecuted" (until there is a journalist publishing negative stuff about said politician), but even for plain old curiosity's sake, trying to understand those people better, or whatever else you can come up with, it should be totally legal.

Re: Longer jail terms for viewing terror content online

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Post by visarga »

rahimnathwani wrote: post #3

This is an informative article let down by a deliberately misleading statement: 'As to the government’s definition of terrorism, it has lost all meaning: remember that a peaceful protests are formally classified as “Low-level terrorism” in government training material.' The 'government' early in the sentence refers to the UK government (the subject of the article) but the training material was published by the _US_ g…

> putting the burden of proof ('reasonable excuse') on the viewer

A parent who lost his son due to terrorism would be put in jail for doing online research into the killers.

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Post by morogop »

wcarron wrote: post #4

Oh...shit. That is both stupefying and petrifying. More and more I feel that there is a new class war coming; and it is not rich vs poor so much as it is governments vs civilians. Really wondering whether this will be shot down or if other governments will follow suit down this road as quickly as possible. Instinct tells me the latter is more likely. I've not been on this Earth long, but where the fuck did all my fre…

They will be followed. In the US, this will be supported by "small government" Republicans, so long as they're promised tax cuts.

There are already aspects of this happening, with Republicans and other so-called conservatives increasingly demanding support for governmental authority, and vilifying those who care about their personal freedom.

Re: Longer jail terms for viewing terror content online

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Post by ISL »

While this is a British concern, a reminder of what the United-States rebels enshrined into their new Constitution:

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

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