Longer jail terms for viewing terror content online
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Re: Longer jail terms for viewing terror content online
#2Words cannot describe now worrisome this is.
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#3This is an informative article let down by a deliberately misleading statement: 'As to the government’s definition of terrorism, it has lost all meaning: remember that a peaceful protests are formally classified as “Low-level terrorism” in government training material.'
The 'government' early in the sentence refers to the UK government (the subject of the article) but the training material was published by the _US_ government, so it's irrelevant here.
It _is_ worrying, though, to see content being banned, and putting the burden of proof ('reasonable excuse') on the viewer, rather than the prosecution.
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#4Oh...shit. That is both stupefying and petrifying. More and more I feel that there is a new class war coming; and it is not rich vs poor so much as it is governments vs civilians. Really wondering whether this will be shot down or if other governments will follow suit down this road as quickly as possible.
Instinct tells me the latter is more likely. I've not been on this Earth long, but where the fuck did all my freedoms go? It's like we're standing on a sandbar watching the tide erode our liberties from under our feet. And shit, it's the ocean. We can't do anything to save our little sandbar.
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#5This article is pretty click-baity. It claims to be about reading banned literature in the title, then when you navigate to the site it immediately says the announcement/law is actually about watching videos promoting terrorism.
The main body of the article is pretty incoherent and rambling; it never really clearly states what the law is actually about.
If you actually go read the linked BBC article[0], you'll find that what's happening is somewhat less alarming than the article would lead you to believe. From what I gather, a politician is attempting to increase the maximum sentence of an existing law from 10 to 15 years, and to apply it to streaming content rather than just downloaded content.
There are definitely free speech implications and concerns here, but it's not nearly as dire as the article would imply.
[0] https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-41479620
*Also, the subtext of the BBC article > People who repeatedly view terrorist content online will face up to 15 years in prison, the home secretary has told the Conservative Party conference.
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#6The blog post above adds little to the bbc article that it links to.. in fact the bbc article is clearer about what has changed -- it's not a new law (Terrorism Act 2000), and the change is from 10 years to 15 years, and it now applies to streaming terrorist videos (instead of just downloaded videos).
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-41479620
This article is also good:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/oct/03/amber-rudd-v...
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#7Mein Kampf was banned banned banned, no ?
Later watered down and now you can buy it.
Various Hizb ut-Tahrir / Wahabi literature is banned banned banned.
Plenty of books have been banned, contrary to what the author is implying
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_books_banned_by_gove...
Re: Longer jail terms for viewing terror content online
#8This article is pretty click-baity. It claims to be about reading banned literature in the title, then when you navigate to the site it immediately says the announcement/law is actually about watching videos promoting terrorism. The main body of the article is pretty incoherent and rambling; it never really clearly states what the law is actually about. If you actually go read the linked BBC article[0], you'll find t…
Is owning a copy of the Anarchist's Cookbook or Mein Kampf going to be a criminal offense? What about a video version of same?
Re: Longer jail terms for viewing terror content online
#9This article is pretty click-baity. It claims to be about reading banned literature in the title, then when you navigate to the site it immediately says the announcement/law is actually about watching videos promoting terrorism. The main body of the article is pretty incoherent and rambling; it never really clearly states what the law is actually about. If you actually go read the linked BBC article[0], you'll find t…
Is owning a copy of the Anarchist's Cookbook or Mein Kampf going to be a criminal offense? What about a video version of same?
Anarchist's Cookbook, yes, probably. There has already been several convictions under this law for owning descriptions of how to make bombs. (The law dates from 2000, although the maximum sentence is now being increased from 10 to 15 years).
Mein Kampf, I'm less sure, there have been people charged with owning ISIS propaganda, but I'm not sure exactly how it worked out on appeal. (They were also convicted on other counts.)
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#10Words cannot describe now worrisome this is.
Actually that is precisely what words are for, which is why this announcement is a big deal.