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Re: Firefox 56: Last Stop Before Quantum

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Post by AdmiralAsshat »

tmzt wrote: post #123
AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you consider Firefox Screenshots from the perspective of a Support tool, this makes alot of sense. Customer wants to file a support ticket or bug report, needs to include a screenshot. Screenshot taken, they paste the link into the ticket, done. They never leave the browser. Outside of the browser, fire up the screenshot tool, crop whatever you want to show, save it, upload it to imgur or website of choice, attach…

cat verysecret.csv | cut -f 1 -d ' ' |fpaste -z -x -a Wait, I meant paste.

You can try it for yourself in the browser: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/

If you accidentally fpasted something sensitive, you're given a deactivation link to remove it immediately.

Re: Firefox 56: Last Stop Before Quantum

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Post by pasbesoin »

ianbicking wrote: post #117
saberworks wrote: post #46

Frustrated by the new "screenshots" tool. The "save" button automatically uploads your screenshot up to mozilla servers. The "download" button saves it to your computer. It seems completely backwards. The "save" button should save it to my computer (there's no reason call something a "download" when it's already local). The "download" button should be replaced with an "upload & share" button that sends it to mozilla'…

Hi, Screenshots developer here – We've gotten similar feedback about the Save and Download buttons, we added the cloud icon in part to make that clearer. I feel like there's a ticket about it as well, but I not able to find it. We're planning on adding a Copy button, and we'll probably do some user research on the buttons generally to make sure the choice is clear. We did have a full page screenshot feature, but it d…

I'm on Ubuntu on a Thinkpad that has the trackpad disabled. Plain Jane Microsoft wired USB mouse plugged in.

I use the right-click/context menu a fair amount. Since FF screenshots was added, it gets triggered frequently when I'm popping the right/click menu on a page -- without my making any click after the right-click to open the context menu. And with the trackpad disabled and using a mouse with a physical button and a rather distinct click, I can say this with considerable confidence.

So, then I have to to hit the escape key to kill the FF screenshot functionality. Which is becoming muscle memory, at this point.

Re: Firefox 56: Last Stop Before Quantum

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Post by analogic »

StavrosK wrote: post #94
analogic wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In case anyone listening, plz no quantum till replacement for: tab groups, hiding horizontal tab bar when using tree style/tab center, and hiding window title bar under MATE, that as far as I can tell is only possible with hide caption title bar plus addon. Pretty sure all being worked on and excited for >>speed>> but I'm scarred this transition gonna be really annoying.

I feel your pain, but I think your position of "please don't release new versions until you have compatibility with the plugins I, specifically, use" might be a tad unreasonable.

how so?

Re: Firefox 56: Last Stop Before Quantum

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Post by saberworks »

ianbicking wrote: post #129
saberworks wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the reply. Adding a "cloud" icon to a button called "Save" does not make it clearer, it makes it contradictory (does it save it or does it upload it?). It's very clear based on the design of the interface that your primary goal is to get people to upload their screenshots to your servers. The "save" button is the only one with a label. The others are icons only. The "save" button is 3x as big as the other…

> I'm not convinced "user research" is the best way to go here. If the majority of your selected users think "save" should mean "upload to mozilla" does that mean they're right? More or less, yes, if more people understand one design than another, then the one that more people understand is the right one. We're generally shooting for more than a majority though, we'd want most people to understand the interface, and…

Haha I am completely dismayed. So that means if I use File -> "Save Page As..." I can look forward to that eventually sending my entire page to your servers ;)

Again thanks for your replies and hopefully they can be more clear in the future (without being incorrect). And just in case I have sounded like a jerk, I really do love Firefox and I have been using it since it first came out as Phoenix. I appreciate the work you all put into it even if my above comments didn't make that clear. I actually used the Mozilla Suite before that, too. I still have, wear, and love my dinosaur head t-shirt I ordered from the mozilla store soooo long ago. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/74/Mo...

Re: Firefox 56: Last Stop Before Quantum

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Post by deltaprotocol »

DavideNL wrote: post #33
maxpert wrote: post #2

Nice to see FF picking up momentum again. I don't want to use Chrome because I don't trust Google with my data (using Chromium right now). Can't wait to switch back, once it's GA.

Chromium also sends data back to Google... unless you use Ungoogled-chromium, but the latter has the issue of not being up to date (= missing recent security updates).

Or Inox https://github.com/gcarq/inox-patchset

Re: Firefox 56: Last Stop Before Quantum

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Post by jd3 »

twobyfour wrote: post #91
moosingin3space wrote: post #76

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If this is a problem for you, please switch to 52 ESR and use it until June 2018, and file bug reports against those legacy extensions. Disabling updates for a piece of software that is used to run untrusted code is a terrible piece of advice.

Unfortunately, a profile backwards-incompatibility was added in FF55, IIRC, so if you're already on 56 you can't downgrade to 52.

I believe this has something to do with moving favicons out of places.sqlite and into favicons.sqlite. This completely destroyed my favicons (thousands) SeaMonkey's Bookmark Manager (and search history going back years).

Re: Firefox 56: Last Stop Before Quantum

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Post by jd3 »

plopz wrote: post #114
actionscripted wrote: post #103

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I'm using Nightly (v58a) and you can customize the UI a lot more than in the current release (v56). You can move back/forward and refresh, auto-hide certain buttons like downloads, add items to the "overflow" menu, toggle full/compact mode, toggle title bar, toggle a "grab" space...there are a lot of options. They've also added proper support for light and dark icons for plugins. So now buttons like 1Password don't s…

Is it possible to make it look like this? https://i.imgur.com/sA8za0B.png

no

Re: Firefox 56: Last Stop Before Quantum

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Post by tincholio »

hadrien01 wrote: post #5
pricechild wrote: post #3

I've been following https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/web/Firefox56AddonW... It's surprised me the amount some people rely on addons for their workflow and the amount of effort they will be going through to resist this change come 57. For my usage, I've found Firefox Klar/Focus (which I believe already include the speed improvements from 57+?) on Android and have been extremely impressed.

Unfortunately that's also where I'll stop during at least a few months after Firefox 57 is released. Quantum is ultra fast, but my extensions are more important. Greasemonkey and Stylish, for example, have equivalent WebExtensions, but they're not as polished. Same with DownThemAll. I think WebExtensions should have matured a bit longer, with Quantum, electrolysis, and Photon being made available for all with the old…

At least for the time being, you can use legacy extensions, by enabling the right option [1] in about:config.

[1] extensions.legacy.enabled -> true

Re: Firefox 56: Last Stop Before Quantum

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Post by jd3 »

actionscripted wrote: post #103
51Cards wrote: post #100

Tab Mix Plus, DownloadThemAll, RightToClick, Status-4-Evar... all regularly used by me, none migrated yet. Not to mention the loss of Classic Theme Restorer's control over the UI highly disappoints me. I really really dislike being locked into the "Chrome Style" UI. I've disliked it since Chrome was released.

I'm using Nightly (v58a) and you can customize the UI a lot more than in the current release (v56). You can move back/forward and refresh, auto-hide certain buttons like downloads, add items to the "overflow" menu, toggle full/compact mode, toggle title bar, toggle a "grab" space...there are a lot of options. They've also added proper support for light and dark icons for plugins. So now buttons like 1Password don't s…

What you just described is literally nothing like the level of low-level customization that past releases of the Mozilla Suite/Firefox had to offer. Not only can extensions no longer modify any of the browser XUL/chrome://, you can't even install Complete Themes that previous let you control the layout of every single browser css element.

It's like Mozilla is deliberately committing corporate suicide with these hasty feature removals.

Re: Firefox 56: Last Stop Before Quantum

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Post by k__ »

zakk wrote: post #124
k__ wrote: post #106

The Quantum performance is amazing. But I cant get my nightly to remember my logins.

> The Quantum performance is amazing. Agreed! I am astonished, and I switched back to FF after many, many years. > But I cant get my nightly to remember my logins. Quantum is in beta now, did you try that?

Isnt it part of FF nightly?
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