Firefox 56: Last Stop Before Quantum • Hacker News Board

Re: Firefox 56: Last Stop Before Quantum

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Post by twobyfour » Fri, Oct 06, 2017, 5:03 PM UTC

moosingin3space wrote: post #76

madmax108 wrote: post #42

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For people who are uber concerned about keeping v56 without losing your extensions as part of the 57 update, you can turn off auto update for Firefox: Go to about:preferences In Firefox Updates choose "Never Check for Updates" Breathe easy! I know this is not recommended, but I love my XUL based extensions a little too much (Tab Groups primary among those) to give them up so easily.

If this is a problem for you, please switch to 52 ESR and use it until June 2018, and file bug reports against those legacy extensions. Disabling updates for a piece of software that is used to run untrusted code is a terrible piece of advice.

Unfortunately, a profile backwards-incompatibility was added in FF55, IIRC, so if you're already on 56 you can't downgrade to 52.

Re: Firefox 56: Last Stop Before Quantum

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Post by DerfNet » Fri, Oct 06, 2017, 5:10 PM UTC

Aeolos wrote: post #72

DerfNet wrote: post #69

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honest question, why would anyone use an in-browser screenshot tool when screenshot tools already come pre-installed in basically every operating system? can Firefox's screenshot tool be disabled? I'd like to switch back from Chrome due to Big Brother concerns but not if Firefox is making questionable choices like this.

Because that allows you to capture a complete, scrollable website as a single png image. OS tools only let you capture the currently viewable area.

ah! thank you, that makes a lot of sense. I use Evernote's web clipper for similar functionality.

Re: Firefox 56: Last Stop Before Quantum

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Post by StavrosK » Fri, Oct 06, 2017, 5:15 PM UTC

saberworks wrote: post #68

phireal wrote: post #66

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It takes a fraction of a second to pop up (maybe a few hundred milliseconds).

Yeah just confirmed by removing the addon. The url shows up but only after an annoying delay and an animated fade-in. Ugh.

I don't know what your delay is set to, but for me it's faster than I can move my eyes from the link to the bottom of the screen.

Re: Firefox 56: Last Stop Before Quantum

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Post by StavrosK » Fri, Oct 06, 2017, 5:17 PM UTC

analogic wrote: post #50

onewhonknocks wrote: post #27

I need to be able to use Tab Groups, so I won't be going to 57+.

In case anyone listening, plz no quantum till replacement for: tab groups, hiding horizontal tab bar when using tree style/tab center, and hiding window title bar under MATE, that as far as I can tell is only possible with hide caption title bar plus addon. Pretty sure all being worked on and excited for >>speed>> but I'm scarred this transition gonna be really annoying.

I feel your pain, but I think your position of "please don't release new versions until you have compatibility with the plugins I, specifically, use" might be a tad unreasonable.

Re: Firefox 56: Last Stop Before Quantum

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Post by JoshMnem » Fri, Oct 06, 2017, 5:24 PM UTC

atonse wrote: post #36

JoshMnem wrote: post #28

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It's already in Firefox Developer Edition. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/developer/

I have developer edition. I don't see it. Is it just like Safari's where you can get extensions that provide content blocking lists?

Do you have version 57.0b3? It comes with two blocking lists.

Re: Firefox 56: Last Stop Before Quantum

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Post by rollcat » Fri, Oct 06, 2017, 5:26 PM UTC

Hangouts calls still not working :(

Very stupid reason to keep Chromium around...

Re: Firefox 56: Last Stop Before Quantum

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Post by damnyou » Fri, Oct 06, 2017, 5:27 PM UTC

51Cards wrote: post #57

damnyou wrote: post #44

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The good of the many outweighs the good of the few.

IMO Gutting your developer base is seldom good.

The web developer base is far more interesting and relevant to Mozilla's mission than the extension developer base, and Quantum is the only shot Mozilla has at regaining mindshare there. Looks like it's working, though.

Re: Firefox 56: Last Stop Before Quantum

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Post by smnrchrds » Fri, Oct 06, 2017, 5:28 PM UTC

satysin wrote: post #32

wyldfire wrote: post #4

> Firefox Quantum’s new engine uses 30% less memory than Chrome This is a pretty appealing claim. I'm ashamed to admit that one thing that might keep me on Chrome is the trove of passwords in my sync'd up account. But I'll definitely give Quantum a test drive.

> I'm ashamed to admit that one thing that might keep me on Chrome is the trove of passwords in my sync'd up account. I was the same until a few days ago when I finally took the time to switch to a real password manager. A HN'er recommended Bitwarden[0] and I have to say it was pretty painless and I am much happier knowing my passwords are with a third party (not that I have any real issue with Google but I did worry…

I would like to switch to Bitwarden, but I don't know how I can assure I can trust them with all my passwords. Are any of the founders well-known security experts? Has the service been recommended by respected security researchers?

I am not a security expert, so I cannot assert their trustworthiness myself. I know that you can run your own server. But even then, without auditing the code, configuring a firewall, and checking network logs, I cannot assure the server and the clients do not call home. And all of those solutions are both prohibitively time-consuming and way out of my area of expertise.

How did you decide Bitwarden was trustworthy? How can I stop worrying and give them my passwords already?

Re: Firefox 56: Last Stop Before Quantum

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Post by irrational » Fri, Oct 06, 2017, 5:28 PM UTC

saberworks wrote: post #68

phireal wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It takes a fraction of a second to pop up (maybe a few hundred milliseconds).

Yeah just confirmed by removing the addon. The url shows up but only after an annoying delay and an animated fade-in. Ugh.

What model of computer are you using (and what operating system)? For me it is practically instantaneous.

Re: Firefox 56: Last Stop Before Quantum

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Post by 51Cards » Fri, Oct 06, 2017, 5:33 PM UTC

Tab Mix Plus, DownloadThemAll, RightToClick, Status-4-Evar... all regularly used by me, none migrated yet. Not to mention the loss of Classic Theme Restorer's control over the UI highly disappoints me. I really really dislike being locked into the "Chrome Style" UI. I've disliked it since Chrome was released.