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Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by nkkollaw »

artursapek wrote: post #185
nkkollaw wrote: post #38

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2016. The keys are so shallow that after normal use (no crumbs or anything like that) they start having problems. As for battery life, they had to make it 4mm thinner just for the sake of it, and the screen sucks all the battery. I wish it was thicker but I could actually use it without keeping plugging it in.

Oh, the emoji bar laptop? Yeah. I tried one of those when they showed up in the stores and the keyboard is pathetic. Ended up switching to a Thinkpad (should have done it years ago).

Yes, I have the version without the touchbar, though.

The keyboard is the best I've ever used in terms of typing, but it only lasted a few months, which is not what you'd expect for a premium laptop.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by debaserab2 »

computerex wrote: post #162
debaserab2 wrote: post #103

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If you want to reset your password, it's pretty much standard operating procedure: https://support.apple.com/en-us/ht201487 Not sure where you got that quote from - it's not in the link you pasted.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204921 Try this link. > Account recovery is an automated process designed to get you back into your Apple ID account* as quickly as possible and deny access to unauthorized users. For your security, recovery might take several days or longer, depending on the verification information that you can provide.

It's still pretty disingenuous to suggest the process will usually take several days just for a "password reset". This is a pretty specific scenario where you've lost access to a device associated with your Apple ID, you're using two factor auth, and you've forgotten what your apple ID is. This isn't a password reset workflow at all.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by mi100hael »

sbd01 wrote: post #166
mi100hael wrote: post #145

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I have a Dell Precision laptop running Linux at home and a MacBook Pro from work. On a weekly basis, the Mac won't wake from sleep and requires a hard reboot. The Time Machine backups get corrupted at least every other month and require a full backup from scratch. Sometimes the audio just quits working when I wake from sleep. The App Store is some horribly wrapped, unresponsive web app. Disk Utility is useless. Etc,…

After my previous MacBooks became buggier and less responsive after updating, I decided to abstain from updating altogether. I'm still on El Capitan, and while there are some bugs and rather baffling programs (z.B. the updated Disk Utility), they are far and few between compared to the High Sierra experience on my other computers. Perhaps you could consider downgrading?

That's not really a sustainable solution, though. At some point, 3rd party developers quit supporting old systems and Apple quits issuing security patches.

If I had my way, time would've froze with 10.6.8.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by jmull »

FabHK wrote: post #147
gowld wrote: post #44

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Hooray for Dynamic Typing!

Good point, if secure/private/whatever you want to call it were encoded in the type system, that would most likely have been caught by the compiler.

It's actually not a very good point because NSSecureTextField inherits from NSTextField and it's specifically designed not to protect from programmatic access to the text.

Of course, you can argue about the design but it's still not a dynamic vs. static type issue.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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chmars wrote: post #3

Description: 'If a hint was set in Disk Utility when creating an APFS encrypted volume, the password was stored as the hint. This was addressed by clearing hint storage if the hint was the password, and by improving the logic for storing hints.' https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208165

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Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by rising-sky »

planetjones wrote: post #50

The lack of attention to detail by Apple recently e.g. code reviews, in house testing is clearly too low. I have seen too many software failures recently from this company. Like photos freezing on my new iMac (before High Sierra), numerous issues with iOS (I remember the podcasts app wasting all my cellular allowance because it ignored WiFi only) and other nuances, inconsistencies and defects. Only in iOS 11 have the…

I totally concur with that last comment. I had to reset my iPhone 7 plus and watch series 3, twice over the weekend to get the Activity app to sync properly. Which is a shame considering Apple's reputation for building "air-tight" software and products and not rushing features to market because they want to get it "right".

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by pfranz »

mi100hael wrote: post #145
planetjones wrote: post #50

The lack of attention to detail by Apple recently e.g. code reviews, in house testing is clearly too low. I have seen too many software failures recently from this company. Like photos freezing on my new iMac (before High Sierra), numerous issues with iOS (I remember the podcasts app wasting all my cellular allowance because it ignored WiFi only) and other nuances, inconsistencies and defects. Only in iOS 11 have the…

I have a Dell Precision laptop running Linux at home and a MacBook Pro from work. On a weekly basis, the Mac won't wake from sleep and requires a hard reboot. The Time Machine backups get corrupted at least every other month and require a full backup from scratch. Sometimes the audio just quits working when I wake from sleep. The App Store is some horribly wrapped, unresponsive web app. Disk Utility is useless. Etc,…

It sounds like you have a hardware problem with your Mac. Time Machine and wake from sleep could be signs of bad RAM...maybe the audio problem, too. Or maybe the extra stuff your work installs? In my experience (for all platforms) that software is low-level and of dubious quality.

OTOH, as long as your hardware is decently supported, I haven't really had fundamental complaints about desktop Linux in the 10+ years I've used it full time. It sounds like for certain laptops there has been good support for a couple years.

Typically, I'll get about 30-100 days of uptime on my mac laptops (usually a software update or installing a kernel extension). On my Linux desktop or server it'll be closer 100-300 days (again, usually kernel patches). Working with OpenGL heavy software, once or more a year there will be a bad combination of Nvidia drivers and kernel that could cause your desktop to crash during certain operations.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by darpa_escapee »

mi100hael wrote: post #145
planetjones wrote: post #50

The lack of attention to detail by Apple recently e.g. code reviews, in house testing is clearly too low. I have seen too many software failures recently from this company. Like photos freezing on my new iMac (before High Sierra), numerous issues with iOS (I remember the podcasts app wasting all my cellular allowance because it ignored WiFi only) and other nuances, inconsistencies and defects. Only in iOS 11 have the…

I have a Dell Precision laptop running Linux at home and a MacBook Pro from work. On a weekly basis, the Mac won't wake from sleep and requires a hard reboot. The Time Machine backups get corrupted at least every other month and require a full backup from scratch. Sometimes the audio just quits working when I wake from sleep. The App Store is some horribly wrapped, unresponsive web app. Disk Utility is useless. Etc,…

I ran a model of MacBook that didn't wake from sleep at all after upgrading to Sierra.

The solution was to get another computer.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by abakker »

dilap wrote: post #161
Osmium wrote: post #122

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There have been a few cases like this. Presumably the original was created/maintained by just one person, they move on, and then when the next person comes along they decide it's easier to re-write than modify the old code. But they don't have sufficient time and the new version is inferior to the old. Bear in mind the old version did need to be updated (new CoreStorage features, has to handle Fusion drives, now APFS…

1. dont have the same depth of dev talent they used to 2. mgmt that isnt as sensitive-to and focussed-on quality. (this is 75% speculation on my part and 25% confirmed by conversations with 2 ex-apple engineers.)

I wonder if they just don't have enough power users of the OS left that aren't also just developers using CLI? ANY power user of the OS itself has seen a ton of head-scratching changes over the years, and I figure that the product managers just don't know who the features were for or what they're used for.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by nkkollaw »

hellofunk wrote: post #198
nkkollaw wrote: post #197

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Mine is the 2016 13". I guess the 15" has a bigger battery.

Mine is 15". It does depend of course what you do on the machine. I'm typically just running emacs all day, which is lightweight.

Yes, of course and I am a web dev and have lots of windows open, but this is definitely a lot worse than anything I've used before.

I personally think that it's the screen. Not sure. As we're speaking, Finder is taking up 12GB of memory as well as lots of CPU: https://imgur.com/a/RwSvI (I just installed High Sierra 2 days ago, though).

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