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If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by bdamm »

Jerry2 wrote: post #71
nkkollaw wrote: post #24

Apple is really going downhill, in every field. I have a MacBook Pro, and the keys no longer work reliably. I also barely get 2 hours of battery life. High Sierra keeps restarting by itself. They removed the jack, and all ports from laptops. They placed the charger for their wireless mouse under the mouse so you can't use it while charging, and the list goes on and on--particularly with software. It's just not premiu…

> They removed the jack, and all ports from laptops. What are you on about? Audio jack is there. > They placed the charger for their wireless mouse under the mouse so you can't use it while charging And? Mouse lasts MONTHS on a single charge. It notifies you 12 hours ahead that it needs charging. A 5 min charge can last you an hour. I think this is a lot better than having a hole on the side of your mouse at all time…

The mouse thing really irks me. The moment the mouse needs charging is the moment is stop working. So why am I expected to then not use the product while it charges? A product that used to have a wire connected to it and is sitting right next to the computer? How is having a hole in the bottom at better than having a hole on the side?

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by epmaybe »

jsz0 wrote: post #32
bdcravens wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps they were busy testing header font sizes in iOS?

I wish they'd spend some time testing font sizes in macOS. I'm either going blind or the font sizes on macOS, especially things like tab titles, are getting harder to read.

Aren't these font sizes modifiable in Accessibility? I've turned on things like contrast and reduced transparency just to make it easier to read, and I'm very young.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by [deleted] »

nkkollaw wrote: post #24

Apple is really going downhill, in every field. I have a MacBook Pro, and the keys no longer work reliably. I also barely get 2 hours of battery life. High Sierra keeps restarting by itself. They removed the jack, and all ports from laptops. They placed the charger for their wireless mouse under the mouse so you can't use it while charging, and the list goes on and on--particularly with software. It's just not premiu…

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Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by FabHK »

csomar wrote: post #66
nkkollaw wrote: post #24

Apple is really going downhill, in every field. I have a MacBook Pro, and the keys no longer work reliably. I also barely get 2 hours of battery life. High Sierra keeps restarting by itself. They removed the jack, and all ports from laptops. They placed the charger for their wireless mouse under the mouse so you can't use it while charging, and the list goes on and on--particularly with software. It's just not premiu…

> I have a MacBook Pro, and the keys no longer work reliably. I also barely get 2 hours of battery life. How old is your Macbook Pro? Mine is 4 years and I still get 7-8 hours of charge even though I have been using the Battery almost everyday.

There's a good chance that GP has the 2016 MBP (that introduced Touchbar). I have the "cheap" (hahahaahaha) version without Touchbar, and have had intermittent problems with the left shift key and the cursor down key (sticky, or unresponsive unless pressed very firmly) - quite annoying. Oh, and the battery life, if you actually use your CPUs, is rather short.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by STRML »

Someone wrote: post #67
adenylyl wrote: post #8

"Erase the affected volume" is really the best solution they could come up with?

I think encryption uses a generated key to encrypt most of the disk, and stores that key encrypted with the user password on the disk. That makes changing the password fast; they only need to re-encrypt the encrypted key with the new password, and write it out. Problem is that an attacker who knows the old password may already have decrypted the generated key, so they can decrypt the encrypted data from the raw data,…

Couldn't you just turn off FileVault (decrypts the drive), let that finish, then turn it back on again?

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by marindez »

bdcravens wrote: post #14
maxton wrote: post #5

It's rather frightening that a bug as serious as this one got past Apple's QA. It seems like the list of known problems with the new Disk Utility is growing - recently there was a submission about how High Sierra's Disk Utility did not show unformatted disks.

Perhaps they were busy testing header font sizes in iOS?

Ah, God. And they just added that header to WhatsApp. They show no respect to 4" phone users.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

eonti09taeuo wrote: post #86
rightos wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So basically if you set a hint your entire disk encryption became useless because the hint storage gave your password away? Yikes, hope no one was relying on that.

Keep in mind that this only happens if you turned it on using Disk Utility. If you did the normal upgrade (the vast majority of users) you didn't go through disk utility, and everything's fine (presumably). Still a terrible error, but affects far fewer people than your comment implied.

What if you used command line diskutil?

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by jug »

baddox wrote: post #13
wallnuss wrote: post #4

how??! In what context does a clear-text password end up anywhere, except as the input for a hash function.

I would guess that the bug was in the front-end code for the password form. At that point the code obviously has access to the plain text password. I’m imagining a copy-paste bug like this: storePassword(form[“password”]) storeHint(form[“password”])

Yes, I was first flabbergasted too but as miserably tested the APFS encryption interface needs to have been (if at all?!), this seems to be basically what is going on.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by epmaybe »

mcintyre1994 wrote: post #82
jklein11 wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Likely they were talking about the iPhone 7, which does not come with a laptop jack.

And the laptops only come with USB-C ports, and I'm yet to meet anybody who owns anything which can be plugged into one of those without a dongle (I suppose excluding their Mac charger :)).

I do wish they kept an SD card reader, I use that quite often and now have to use an adapter.
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