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If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by stinos »

nevir wrote: post #18
georgespencer wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or maybe: “I hope they improve and nobody loses their job”

Agreed. You can be sure that whomever was involved with the bug will probably never make that mistake again.

You can be sure ... probably

So which one will it be?

On a more serious note: this really depends on the person in question. Not everyone has that state of mind it takes to be extra wary when you find yourself in a similar situation where it went worng before. I've worked with people who made pretty severe mistakes, were pointed out, nodded 'yes', only to just make the exact same programming mistake a few months later. And again, and again.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by jsz0 »

bdcravens wrote: post #14
maxton wrote: post #5

It's rather frightening that a bug as serious as this one got past Apple's QA. It seems like the list of known problems with the new Disk Utility is growing - recently there was a submission about how High Sierra's Disk Utility did not show unformatted disks.

Perhaps they were busy testing header font sizes in iOS?

I wish they'd spend some time testing font sizes in macOS. I'm either going blind or the font sizes on macOS, especially things like tab titles, are getting harder to read.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by dep_b »

bdcravens wrote: post #14
maxton wrote: post #5

It's rather frightening that a bug as serious as this one got past Apple's QA. It seems like the list of known problems with the new Disk Utility is growing - recently there was a submission about how High Sierra's Disk Utility did not show unformatted disks.

Perhaps they were busy testing header font sizes in iOS?

Given the amount of crashes I see have existing applications to large titles that also doesn't seem to be the case.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by asdfasdfasd333 »

nkkollaw wrote: post #24

Apple is really going downhill, in every field. I have a MacBook Pro, and the keys no longer work reliably. I also barely get 2 hours of battery life. High Sierra keeps restarting by itself. They removed the jack, and all ports from laptops. They placed the charger for their wireless mouse under the mouse so you can't use it while charging, and the list goes on and on--particularly with software. It's just not premiu…

lol

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by cliffy »

wallnuss wrote: post #4

how??! In what context does a clear-text password end up anywhere, except as the input for a hash function.

How?

1. Lack of automated unit tests covering the code in question. 2. Lack of automated functional tests running through scenarios of setting up an encrypted volume with or without a hint. 3. Lack of strict review process for the disk utility's codebase.

This assumes automated tests are also peer-reviewed.

1 - 3 won't guarantee a bug-free project, but I doubt this bug would've made it into production.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by jsz0 »

mortenjorck wrote: post #16
egb wrote: post #2

I so wish Apple had not removed the older Sierra installer from the Mac AppStore... I need to update some machines but High Sierra does not seem ready for reliable use yet.

I just wish they had made APFS optional for SSDs (as it is if you install to spinning media). It seems like 99% of the problems I'm seeing reported for High Sierra are due to the filesystem (or apps using a brittle, hand-rolled method of disk access).

That would just delay the problems getting fixed though. IIRC you can pass the installer a flag to skip APFS conversion.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by gowld »

bdcravens wrote: post #14
maxton wrote: post #5

It's rather frightening that a bug as serious as this one got past Apple's QA. It seems like the list of known problems with the new Disk Utility is growing - recently there was a submission about how High Sierra's Disk Utility did not show unformatted disks.

Perhaps they were busy testing header font sizes in iOS?

Engineers couldn't see the bug because the code was displayed in Narrow Light font weight, color grey

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by nkkollaw »

jordache wrote: post #27
nkkollaw wrote: post #24

Apple is really going downhill, in every field. I have a MacBook Pro, and the keys no longer work reliably. I also barely get 2 hours of battery life. High Sierra keeps restarting by itself. They removed the jack, and all ports from laptops. They placed the charger for their wireless mouse under the mouse so you can't use it while charging, and the list goes on and on--particularly with software. It's just not premiu…

which mbp model?

2016.

The keys are so shallow that after normal use (no crumbs or anything like that) they start having problems.

As for battery life, they had to make it 4mm thinner just for the sake of it, and the screen sucks all the battery. I wish it was thicker but I could actually use it without keeping plugging it in.

Re: If macOS High Sierra shows your password instead of the password hint

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Post by nine_k »

gowld wrote: post #30
nkkollaw wrote: post #24

Apple is really going downhill, in every field. I have a MacBook Pro, and the keys no longer work reliably. I also barely get 2 hours of battery life. High Sierra keeps restarting by itself. They removed the jack, and all ports from laptops. They placed the charger for their wireless mouse under the mouse so you can't use it while charging, and the list goes on and on--particularly with software. It's just not premiu…

Android and Microsoft have their own sets of equivalent problems. Software and hardware change too quickly now, no one has time to build quality

It also had choice.
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