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Post by piyush_soni »

hypersoar wrote: post #227
mullingitover wrote: post #170

I witnessed my girlfriend's Nexus 6p support experience with Google and it was not pretty. I would never buy a Google phone after that. The phone, just barely out of warranty, goes into a bootloop and becomes a paperweight. Google helpfully shrugs the problem off on Huawei, and Huawei will of course not support the product since it's out of warranty. There is no repair option. I tried Android early on, had similarly…

It seems to make a big difference whether or not you buy it from Google. I've seen lots of complaints from Nexus 6P owners who didn't being shoved off to Huawei and their terrible support. But I bought mine from Google, who twice offered me RMAs after the warranty period was over with no resistance. Most recently they replaced it with a new Pixel XL, instead (due to stock issues, I assume). That being said, Google ne…

My experience (multiple times) with Google's hardware support has really been nice. Every time they have helped me immediately, sometimes replacing the devices without asking questions or proofs etc.

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Post by piyush_soni »

FireBeyond wrote: post #342
euyyn wrote: post #316

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> she took it into an Apple store What the parent is saying is that's precisely the difference. Your wife brought her phone to the manufacturer. The Nexus phones were not manufactured by Google. If I don't buy it from the Google store, my buying didn't establish a commercial relationship with them. The Pixel phones, though, are manufactured by Google. Disclaimer: Even though I'm a Google employee I have no idea how t…

How is a Google phone, manufactured by Huawei ... any different from an Apple phone, manufactured by FoxConn? Apple wasn't the manufacturer at all.

Because it was a "Nexus" - Manufactured by someone else, in 'collaboration' with Google. The first Pixel was also manufactured by HTC (and may be FoxConn eventually, who knows), but it carries the tag of manufactured by Google, so that should be supported regardless of where you buy it from. That's the first Google phone.

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by piyush_soni »

dnissley wrote: post #394
jsmthrowaway wrote: post #311

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Did you identify yourself as a Google employee? Just asking because re: consistency, I could believe a blue badge might pull some weight in that situation. Speaking from experience, badging at an Apple Store will often change a conversation, sometimes dramatically, despite that ability not really being intended at all. Neither here nor there, just a data point.

I do not work for Google and had the same experience re: getting a pixel xl replacement for my Nexus 6p.

I heard it from so many people, that I want my Nexus 6P to go bad all by itself, unfortunately, that doesn't happen :).

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Post by tyler33 »

staticelf wrote: post #555
jraedisch wrote: post #522

I am an Android user but it seems to me that it gets more and more invasive. Everytime I go somewhere it wants me to take photos and just now it advertised some Play Store movie. Search asks for location access on almost every search. To get rid of the search bar I need to install third party software. When I buy a premium phone I want the phone to work for me and not the other way around. The notification bar should…

I hate the invasive features that seems to only increase with every Android update. So now I am getting an iPhone for the first time in years. > And this year’s Pixel will take advantage of the phone’s always-on microphones to listen for music (not just the phrase “OK Google”) and display what you’re listening to on the screen, even if it’s something on the radio. Like.. wtf? No! I don't want that. Sure it "only list…

You can install lineageOS intead of android on your phone, because I think apple could be similar in some ways to google

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Post by Grazester »

staticelf wrote: post #555
jraedisch wrote: post #522

I am an Android user but it seems to me that it gets more and more invasive. Everytime I go somewhere it wants me to take photos and just now it advertised some Play Store movie. Search asks for location access on almost every search. To get rid of the search bar I need to install third party software. When I buy a premium phone I want the phone to work for me and not the other way around. The notification bar should…

I hate the invasive features that seems to only increase with every Android update. So now I am getting an iPhone for the first time in years. > And this year’s Pixel will take advantage of the phone’s always-on microphones to listen for music (not just the phrase “OK Google”) and display what you’re listening to on the screen, even if it’s something on the radio. Like.. wtf? No! I don't want that. Sure it "only list…

"I urge people to do the same."

I am just fine with my Google service thank you. If I don't like something I disable it. Most of it I can and I appreciate the convenience of some of the stuff.

The iphone without any of the doodads feels like a dumb phone. This is a great way though to discourage constant phone use though.

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Post by staticelf »

tyler33 wrote: post #574
staticelf wrote: post #555

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I hate the invasive features that seems to only increase with every Android update. So now I am getting an iPhone for the first time in years. > And this year’s Pixel will take advantage of the phone’s always-on microphones to listen for music (not just the phrase “OK Google”) and display what you’re listening to on the screen, even if it’s something on the radio. Like.. wtf? No! I don't want that. Sure it "only list…

You can install lineageOS intead of android on your phone, because I think apple could be similar in some ways to google

The difference is that in the Google ecosystem you are the product while using a device from Apple you are the customer from the start.

Of course they have cloud stuff, that doesn't bother me. It's the evasive cloud stuff that you have minimal control over that bothers me.

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Post by staticelf »

Grazester wrote: post #575
staticelf wrote: post #555

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I hate the invasive features that seems to only increase with every Android update. So now I am getting an iPhone for the first time in years. > And this year’s Pixel will take advantage of the phone’s always-on microphones to listen for music (not just the phrase “OK Google”) and display what you’re listening to on the screen, even if it’s something on the radio. Like.. wtf? No! I don't want that. Sure it "only list…

"I urge people to do the same." I am just fine with my Google service thank you. If I don't like something I disable it. Most of it I can and I appreciate the convenience of some of the stuff. The iphone without any of the doodads feels like a dumb phone. This is a great way though to discourage constant phone use though.

On my phone at least, Google spams me for data input whenever I use maps and it seems at least to do that even if I simply have location on without actually using any app.

Ï cannot disable this, it also sends me ads from built in apps (not really Google here) that I cannot disable.

I am done with all of that. For years I have been an android enthusiast, thinking it was so much better than iPhone. How times change.

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Post by staticelf »

unicornporn wrote: post #565
staticelf wrote: post #555

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I hate the invasive features that seems to only increase with every Android update. So now I am getting an iPhone for the first time in years. > And this year’s Pixel will take advantage of the phone’s always-on microphones to listen for music (not just the phrase “OK Google”) and display what you’re listening to on the screen, even if it’s something on the radio. Like.. wtf? No! I don't want that. Sure it "only list…

I installed CopperheadOS on my Nexus 5X, it has been a blessing. I use OsmAnd~ maps and navigation, Startpage for search and Firefox (and Firefox Klar) as my browser. I chose Mailbox.org as my mail/calendar/contacts provider. DAVdroid syncs my calendar with the default Copperhead OS calendar app (Etar) and the Contacts app. I use the K-9 mail app. For YouTube I use NewPipe. It suits me a lot better than the YouTube a…

I don't want to have to change the OS on my phone to get an acceptable experience. I rather do something else with my time.

But I use fastmail for mail and calendar. It works great for me. I still have like 10 years worth of data in Google Mail. So it will take some time before I can completely release that.

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Post by sapphire_tomb »

criddell wrote: post #130
gambiting wrote: post #12

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Yep, after being really impressed with the Pixel I knew Pixel 2 was going to be my next phone. Not anymore. Lack of the headphone jack is an absolute no-go for me.

I think Google is okay with that. They know the phone isn't for everybody and fortunately there's a lot of choice in the Android world. If you want to run iOS apps, you are kind of stuck taking what Apple gives you and so I think the frustration with removal of the headphone jack there is warranted. I don't understand why anybody cares that Google is doing this. We have a lot of choice in the Android world.

Because being forced to go to another Android device means you no longer get stock Android. That's why it's annoying.

Having used every Nexus device from the One through to my current PixelXL, except for the Nexus 6 which I skipped in favour of the OnePlus One, I'm very annoyed I'm going to have to put up with :

1) Someone else's skin on Android 2) Someone else's schedule for supplying my phone with software updates, which from my experience with the OnePlus One, and with anecdotal evidence from everyone who hasn't had a Google device seems to be "sometime, if ever".

That's why this is annoying to me at least.

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Post by distances »

staticelf wrote: post #578
unicornporn wrote: post #565

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I installed CopperheadOS on my Nexus 5X, it has been a blessing. I use OsmAnd~ maps and navigation, Startpage for search and Firefox (and Firefox Klar) as my browser. I chose Mailbox.org as my mail/calendar/contacts provider. DAVdroid syncs my calendar with the default Copperhead OS calendar app (Etar) and the Contacts app. I use the K-9 mail app. For YouTube I use NewPipe. It suits me a lot better than the YouTube a…

I don't want to have to change the OS on my phone to get an acceptable experience. I rather do something else with my time. But I use fastmail for mail and calendar. It works great for me. I still have like 10 years worth of data in Google Mail. So it will take some time before I can completely release that.

You can import all your Gmail contents to Fastmail. I did this, it was very straightforward.
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