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Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by joshuamorton » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 6:15 PM UTC

sf_rob wrote: post #95

stephengillie wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After finding cheap Bluetooth headsets on Amazon last about as long as a pair of earbuds, and have no cord, I don't see a problem. I'm very rough on physical devices, and will go through 4-6 pair of earbuds a year. Because these do not physically connect to the device, they take an order of magnitude less wear, and thus last longer.

I've never had a pair of Bluetooth headsets that haven't had connection issues with my Pixel. This is especially true of the cheap Sony pair I tried, but also true of the nicer Macaws and Here Ones. Even my car's head unit has a new bug with Oreo where it connects/"plays" but is muted until I reconnect.

Interesting. I've never had bluetooth issues with pixel. My current headphones (Bose QC35, but not the fancy assistant ones) work amazingly, and even my older headphones (ancient LG Tones) worked great. My only complaints with my 5X were occasional stutter, and that was gone with Pixel.

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by noncoml » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 6:17 PM UTC

Why would anyone pay money to buy a phone from an advertising company?

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by deep_concern » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 6:18 PM UTC

lopespm wrote: post #45

Honest question: for those of you who own a mobile device without a headphone jack, do you find it to be an encuberment? Personally I still find it a bit hostile to not have the jack available, since often times I find myself charging the phone and using the headphones (when watching videos for example), so having an adapter dongle for such a frequent task seems counterintuitive to me. I believe that if a device is c…

My friend with an iPhone was unable to play his music through the speakers in my car because he forgot his adapter. We had to use a cup to amplify the speakers. Even if he had remembered his dongle, if he'd needed to charge his phone it'd need to be a splitter dongle. We'd had no problems playing music in the car for the past decade.

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by humblebee » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 6:18 PM UTC

duxup wrote: post #111

I wish Google would do a mid range Pixel, or call it something else if they want, just something like a follow up to the 5x.

I think this is what the Moto X4 is.

https://www.blog.google/products/project-fi/project-fi-welco...

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by kpxxx3 » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 6:18 PM UTC

tstrimple wrote: post #107

robterrell wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it not time yet? When I lost my Pixel on a trip, I switched to an iPhone 7 + airpods and it's been great. I don't want to go back to wired headphones. Apple certainly seems to have nailed it. I can't imagine Google + HTC can't too.

You're really asking why overpriced wireless devices with mediocre to atrocious battery life and substandard audio quality are not a sufficient replacement for devices you can literally buy in any convenience store around the world for tens of dollars? There is room for a headphone jack in these phones (video below). The only reason they removed them when they did is to push accessory sales. https://www.youtube.com/w…

> substandard audio quality > literally buy in any convenience store around the world

A substantial drop in audio quality is most likely completely psychological (not saying it isn't a real problem for some). But wired convenience store headphones typically are not great sound quality wise, the SBC codec of bluetooth likely has very little to do with sound quality at that point.

Maybe, if you're comparing actually good monitors. But to bitch about bluetooth sound quality when comparing to typical cheap earbuds is a bit silly.

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by jordache » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 6:19 PM UTC

how can an adjacent pixel be used to calculate depth map. Are they telling me the sensor and their algorithm is that sensitive to generate none binary depth info from adjacent pixels?

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by Zee2 » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 6:20 PM UTC

codq wrote: post #63

ggreer wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Instead of buying a new car, you could just use the adaptor that comes with the phone.

So you can arrive to your destination with 50% battery. There's really no argument that paints headphone jack removal as a net positive. Samsung has proved you can waterproof a phone with one (and an SD card!).

Wait, what? Am I understanding you correctly, that you mean the adapter will use more battery?

USB-C allows for analog audio passthrough, unlike Lightning.

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by MattyRad » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 6:20 PM UTC

I bought a Pixel when it came out, switching from the Nexus 5 primarily because Project Fi was an easy, cheap way to get off my parent's cell-phone plan and gain some personal independence. It was about time for a new phone anyway.

I wish I had just stuck with the Nexus 5... it was a fantastic phone. Wireless charging (which I personally found to be the most useful feature), excellent dimensions, excellent price, and the notification light was bright. The case was made of some sort of rubberized plastic, so it could withstand a real beating.

Squeezable sides and marginally improved specs aren't enough for me to consider upgrading, and at this point, as an Android fan since the Nexus 4, I would strongly considering making the switch the iPhone.

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by user-on1 » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 6:21 PM UTC

the rounded corners on the pixel 2 xl just looks ugly... dont u guys think...

Also the huge bezels in pixel 2...

seems like these announcements just boil down to nothing...

at least those headphones could have been individual device without a need for pixel or if it needs to be paired then at least it should have been around $50

it is basically just a total waste of time, it was fun to listen to those new music in the event though...

Re: Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL announced

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Post by criddell » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 6:21 PM UTC

gambiting wrote: post #12

legohead wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love my Pixel, but they just lost me as a customer for this reason. I'm not totally against removing the headphone jack, but it's not time yet -- the transition has been done poorly.

Yep, after being really impressed with the Pixel I knew Pixel 2 was going to be my next phone. Not anymore. Lack of the headphone jack is an absolute no-go for me.

I think Google is okay with that. They know the phone isn't for everybody and fortunately there's a lot of choice in the Android world.

If you want to run iOS apps, you are kind of stuck taking what Apple gives you and so I think the frustration with removal of the headphone jack there is warranted. I don't understand why anybody cares that Google is doing this. We have a lot of choice in the Android world.