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Productive on six hours of sleep? You’re deluding yourself, expert says

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Re: Productive on six hours of sleep? You’re deluding yourself, expert says

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Post by stale2002 »

Delmania wrote: post #170
mxuribe wrote: post #70

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I'm with you all the way! I hear people talk about optimizing one's day to be more productive and "get more done in your day" so often...but honestly, between work, family responsibilities, working out a little in the gym, getting involved in side projects (either "working on the car", or working on side dev project), maybe some civic community involvement, social visits (the occasional beer with a buddy), etc...it j…

Automation never results in more leisure. It results in more specialized work and increased workloads. The sentiment expressed in the first line is why I intend to stay working remotely for as long as possible. I hated the fact I saw a drab grey cubicle farm more than my house and family.

Automation has been happening for the last century. And what has happened to work weeks/hours? Oh thats right, they went drastically down.

Re: Productive on six hours of sleep? You’re deluding yourself, expert says

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Post by pascalxus »

thirdsun wrote: post #45
givinguflac wrote: post #37

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This works well for me (I use ‘sleep cycle’) but doesn’t solve my inability to actually get tired and go to bed at night.

Have you tried avoiding screens an hour or two before going to bed? Fill that time with reading or listening to podcasts.

podcasts are awesome - we're kinda in a golden age for it.

Re: Productive on six hours of sleep? You’re deluding yourself, expert says

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Post by ThrowawayP »

k__ wrote: post #159
nrclark wrote: post #52

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No opinion on the surgery, but you might try a CPAP machine! I have a family member whose epiglottis was damaged in surgery, and she developed really bad sleep apnea as a result. It took her a solid year of being a zombie before she figured out what was happening and why. She bought a CPAP, and it's made a huge difference in her quality of life. So if you're looking to try out a non-surgical fix while you ponder a su…

These machines look rather uncomfortable :/

> These machines look rather uncomfortable :/

They are. But when the alternative is surgery to enlarge your nasal passages (which, like any form of surgery, may or may not work), well, forcing oneself to get used to it is the lesser of two evils.

Re: Productive on six hours of sleep? You’re deluding yourself, expert says

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Post by cm2012 »

randcraw wrote: post #139
wmil wrote: post #39

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Not only that, but the 40h/week ignores commutes. For some people that's an additional 15h/week. Also hunger-gatherers lived right beside the people they knew. They just had to step outside to meet up with friends to socialize.

15h / 5 days is 3h / day -- 1.5 hours each way, that's a long commute. The average commute in the US is 20 min each way. Suburbanites mostly jump to nearby suburbs. It's the urbanites & rurals who outlie, with interminable train rides or stops-and-gos via SUV & long highway drives to a bigger town an hour away. A map of US commute times: https://lifehacker.com/this-map-shows-the-average-commute-ti...

I did that commute for 5 years in NYC. Now work from home:)

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Post by wnissen »

rhcom2 wrote: post #48
nikkwong wrote: post #40

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I was just diagnosed with sleep apnea this week after it wreaked havoc on my personal and professional life for the last 6. I couldn't work, couldn't engage in anything. Now I'm pretty much terrified to go to sleep every night as I know I'm probably not going to get any rest and wake up zombified. I heard the surgery was a hit or miss. Would you recommend?

CPAP is usually the first line for sleep apnea. I've been using one for the past couple of months. They've improved the masks so the really only annoyance is being tethered to the machine when you roll over but it isn't too bad. Another thing I've learned is the CPAP machines now phone home to the insurance company to give them compliance data on how and when you use the machine. Less happy about that.

Does yours have an "airplane mode"? You can get an SD card instead of using the cellular.

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Post by StillBored »

Retric wrote: post #119
whatshisface wrote: post #115

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I can recount for you the story that I've heard from those in my area who have kids: First, the most dedicated full-time parents decided to pick their kids up and drop them off, so that they would have more time with their kids and the kids would spend less time in transit. Then, some unruly kids caused some trouble on the buses (the district isn't going to station a warden on the bus, and the driver has a route to k…

That's fairly contrived. Schools are already very segregated by affluence and buss routes need to handle every student outside of walking distance. So, the net result is mostly just empty buses, and wasted gas.

Walking distance being two miles in the last couple places I lived... Which is probably fine for high school in areas with decent weather, and somewhat rural.

OTOH though, we have elementary schools in urban/suburban areas where 1/2 of the population of the school falls within the 2 mile radius (great saves money on busing!). Combined with high speed traffic, questionable neighborhoods, bad weather, a tendency towards overprotective parenting, and most parents of early elementary school children are going to be driving them rather than letting them walk to school.

The crazy thing is that most elementary schools are going to be getting out at ~3PM, which is far to early for most parents to leave their jobs, which means they end up paying a few hundred dollars a month per child in after school fees. A real problem for people near the poverty line, so those are the 5 year olds you see walking home alone at 3PM...

Re: Productive on six hours of sleep? You’re deluding yourself, expert says

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Post by StillBored »

randcraw wrote: post #139
wmil wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not only that, but the 40h/week ignores commutes. For some people that's an additional 15h/week. Also hunger-gatherers lived right beside the people they knew. They just had to step outside to meet up with friends to socialize.

15h / 5 days is 3h / day -- 1.5 hours each way, that's a long commute. The average commute in the US is 20 min each way. Suburbanites mostly jump to nearby suburbs. It's the urbanites & rurals who outlie, with interminable train rides or stops-and-gos via SUV & long highway drives to a bigger town an hour away. A map of US commute times: https://lifehacker.com/this-map-shows-the-average-commute-ti...

The map is cool, but you will notice the longest commute times are also where the majority of the population lives (a few big cities).

Re: Productive on six hours of sleep? You’re deluding yourself, expert says

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Post by positr0n »

sillysaurus3 wrote: post #127
whatshisface wrote: post #123

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> do parents think they're protecting kids by driving them instead of letting them take the bus? Yes, that's exactly the sentiment.

The point is, parents aren't protecting kids by doing that. They're deluding themselves into thinking that it's effective when in reality the kids are getting bullied throughout the day at the school. Well, it's not like the problem can be solved, so I guess parents need something to convince themselves they're making a difference.

> The point is, parents aren't protecting kids by [driving instead of busing].

Sure they are. A bus is a different environment than school. For one, the only adult is actively concentrating the opposite direction of all the kids, who have large seat backs that block view of all but their heads. That leaves a lot more room for... activities.

I took the bus a few times when I was in junior high school almost two decades ago. I faced very minor bullying every trip. At school 7/8 of my classes were "advanced" in some way (honors, pre-AP, AP, orchestra, etc) so I didn't interact with the kids doing the bullying. I can count on one had the times I felt bullied at school during those years.

Now for me it's possible I would have been better served by just learning to handle small stuff like that, but I can certainly see how a bus ride could be hell for some kids and then they'd be mostly ok at school (maybe just some incidents at PE and lunch).

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Post by Antrikshy »

irrational wrote: post #161
eduren wrote: post #157

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So then why would I have kids?

Millions of years of biological imperative. The fact that you are here is proof that your ancestors were successful at procreating. Its in your genes (and your jeans).

Except I'm human and I can consciously decide not to have kids.
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