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Productive on six hours of sleep? You’re deluding yourself, expert says

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Re: Productive on six hours of sleep? You’re deluding yourself, expert says

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I wasn't speaking about better rested vs less rested. You can totally lose symptoms of tiredness, only to wind up with dementia at later point in life.

Is this just speculation or is there evidence for this?

There is:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/sep/24/why-lac...

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/how-sle...

Re: Productive on six hours of sleep? You’re deluding yourself, expert says

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I'm with you all the way! I hear people talk about optimizing one's day to be more productive and "get more done in your day" so often...but honestly, between work, family responsibilities, working out a little in the gym, getting involved in side projects (either "working on the car", or working on side dev project), maybe some civic community involvement, social visits (the occasional beer with a buddy), etc...it j…

Increased automation allows for more leisure time for those who own the robots.

And the unemployed...

Re: Productive on six hours of sleep? You’re deluding yourself, expert says

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> with friends to socialize Or, sometimes, rival tribes to fight with and kill -- not everything is (necessarily) hunky-dory in every tribal society.

I have little knowledge about the truth here but I'd heard that this sort of warring stuff only ramped up after agriculture became common, no? Why kill other tribes' members unless they have a hoard of food? I suppose "to reduce competition" is one answer, but if everyone can hunt/gather for enough food, the motivation seems reduced. OTOH if I can ignore preparation for winter and just raid your village for grain sto…

Humans are Klingons. We in the developed world are currently living in a very strange universe unlike any before it in the history of humankind. Previous to the peaceful, violence-free lifestyle most people enjoy in the West everyone was pressed into sustaining the human war machine. American Indians had a long history of inter-tribal warfare to rival any European combat. It's just what humans do. Our apex societal violence is force-multiplied by a small group of people operating complex technological machinery, even though everyone else is still pressed into service and driven to exhaustion for industrial productivity.

Re: Productive on six hours of sleep? You’re deluding yourself, expert says

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This is one of the reasons I hate the eight-hour work day. Between that and all of the other shit you have to do in a day (commute, chores, eating, exercise etc.), it seems like there's little to no opportunity to just have a life. I know it sounds like first world problems (people used to work 100 hour weeks), but I think our culture needs to change before we can really put the onus on people to improve their sleepi…

commute - work someplace closer. or get remote work. chores - have less stuff to maintain. eating - not sure what can be done here. exercise - look into tabata or hiit. you can workout 2x20min a week. you can also find way to be more efficient with your activities to cut off time on each one, even if you keep it. sure none of these suggestions is without cost. but these suggestions can be enacted to the end goal of m…

eating - I think that's why Soylent was so popular. People liked the idea of drinking a meal while working/multi-tasking. I'm not 100% into it, especially since I'd prefer something with a better ratio of protein, but I see the appeal.

Re: Productive on six hours of sleep? You’re deluding yourself, expert says

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By use of meditation and yoga I've found the opposite to be true. The system I've used is described somewhat here http://isha.sadhguru.org/blog/lifestyle/health-fitness/10-he... Edit: downvotes why?

I wouldn't downvote you (even if I could) for adding to the discussion, but this certainly isn't the sort of content I come to HN to explore. Outlandish claims without anything to back them up.

Re: Productive on six hours of sleep? You’re deluding yourself, expert says

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That might work for the OP or someone who is capable of earning enough to set up systems to make a passive income. But that's not a global solution to the problem. We can't all be lazy rent seeking drains on society.

Its not "rent seeking" if you solve a problem that others have in a way that is repeatable and low margin for you. It does favor software solutions a LOT though.

Hmmm, I get what you're saying but I still don't feel like that can be a global solution for everyone. At least not until we live in a post-scarcity society of some sort where we can all get paid from some software we wrote.

Re: Productive on six hours of sleep? You’re deluding yourself, expert says

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> do parents think they're protecting kids by driving them instead of letting them take the bus? Yes, that's exactly the sentiment.

The point is, parents aren't protecting kids by doing that. They're deluding themselves into thinking that it's effective when in reality the kids are getting bullied throughout the day at the school. Well, it's not like the problem can be solved, so I guess parents need something to convince themselves they're making a difference.

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Re: Productive on six hours of sleep? You’re deluding yourself, expert says

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If you feel groggy in the morning or just not well–rested even after 7-8 hours sleep, get your sinuses & lungs checked. Could be sleep apnea, but in my case I felt congested all the time. What I thought was allergies was actually the linings of my sinuses inflamed to the point of closing off air passages. Unclear if the root cause in my case was acid-reflux into the sinus cavities or exposure to dust from ground zero…

I've always suspected I have a problem like this but couldn't ever get a doctor to help.

Prior to treatment, did your sinuses open up completely during hard aerobic exercise and then feel like they slam shut as soon as you were done?

Re: Productive on six hours of sleep? You’re deluding yourself, expert says

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post #25

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Actually, studies have shown that hunter-gatherer societies spent much less than 40h/week "working" and had more leisure time than we do. It's just recent history that's an anomaly...

Not only that, but the 40h/week ignores commutes. For some people that's an additional 15h/week. Also hunger-gatherers lived right beside the people they knew. They just had to step outside to meet up with friends to socialize.

15h / 5 days is 3h / day -- 1.5 hours each way, that's a long commute.

The average commute in the US is 20 min each way. Suburbanites mostly jump to nearby suburbs. It's the urbanites & rurals who outlie, with interminable train rides or stops-and-gos via SUV & long highway drives to a bigger town an hour away.

A map of US commute times: https://lifehacker.com/this-map-shows-the-average-commute-ti...

Re: Productive on six hours of sleep? You’re deluding yourself, expert says

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post #17

This is one of the reasons I hate the eight-hour work day. Between that and all of the other shit you have to do in a day (commute, chores, eating, exercise etc.), it seems like there's little to no opportunity to just have a life. I know it sounds like first world problems (people used to work 100 hour weeks), but I think our culture needs to change before we can really put the onus on people to improve their sleepi…

commute - work someplace closer. or get remote work. chores - have less stuff to maintain. eating - not sure what can be done here. exercise - look into tabata or hiit. you can workout 2x20min a week. you can also find way to be more efficient with your activities to cut off time on each one, even if you keep it. sure none of these suggestions is without cost. but these suggestions can be enacted to the end goal of m…

* You can collapse your commute and exercise in to one activity.

* You either pre-cook meals on the weekend, or utilize a meal substitute like Soylent (or both)

* Most chores involve cleaning things that just get dirty as part of their normal use, if you shower and spend most of your "toilet time" at work, you automatically have someone who's going to clean up after you.

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