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Re: iMac Pro

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Post by akvadrako »

gnicholas wrote: post #160
crispyambulance wrote: post #86

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You "can" swap out parts and repair iMacs, it is just not something one does casually. You need tools, instructions, skills and will-power. The thing is most people, even pros, don't bother with that stuff even when they have Dell boxes. Apple knows that and, I think, trades off ease-of-repair for sleekness and mostly wins out (until recently). AFAIK, there is no "screen mode" that enables one to use these things as…

> * AFAIK, there is no "screen mode" that enables one to use these things as monitors.* You actually can! It's called Target Display mode: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204592

Not for the iMac Pro.

Re: iMac Pro

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Post by seba_dos1 »

xutopia wrote: post #92
seba_dos1 wrote: post #73

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That's up to personal taste. I have every day contact with macOS and can't stand it.

Could you describe what you don't like about it? For all we know it could be that you don't like the color choices they made.

File management and some UI paradigms in general. Terminal.app isn't very comfortable. Package management feels hacky and various things seem to work better with various managers. And the need for 3rd party package manager for basic stuff itself. Absolutely terrible OpenGL drivers. The way library linking is implemented for the bundle files is horrible. Troubleshooting is hard. And those are just first things from a quick dump out of my head, I could type more.

macOS seems like a better, Unix-based Windows for me. Better than Windows, but that's pretty much the only thing I can say about it.

Re: iMac Pro

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Post by gnicholas »

akvadrako wrote: post #201
gnicholas wrote: post #160

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> * AFAIK, there is no "screen mode" that enables one to use these things as monitors.* You actually can! It's called Target Display mode: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204592

Not for the iMac Pro.

Very interesting – is this documented by Apple? Can’t imagine why they’d disallow this, though of course an iMac pro would be a very expensive external monitor....

Re: iMac Pro

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Post by coldtea »

walshemj wrote: post #192
coldtea wrote: post #159

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> Moving from a MAC pro workflow to a Wintel (i9 Xenon or AMD) is non trivial So what do I earn from "biting the bullet"? I go through a non trivial process for merely the possibility that the iMac Pro might not have continued new models (which will only matter to me in 2-3 years at earlier if I buy it). And that when there's already another Mac Pro model announced for 2018.

Your laying off the risk of apple either abandoning the pro market or at best ignoring it as it has for the last few years.

>Your laying off the risk of apple either abandoning the pro market or at best ignoring it as it has for the last few years.

I'm not laying off the risk though -- I'm taking the same hit, only voluntarily.

My question was meant as: what I get by making the transition before that's actually the case?

I can always not take the risk until there's actually a reason.

Re: iMac Pro

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Post by harrygeez »

Caprinicus wrote: post #198
styfle wrote: post #196

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I tend to squeeze every penny and I have a bit of buyer's remorse for buying a refurbished MacBook 2015 with the smallest storage: 128 GB. Everything else is great, but I'm constantly finding myself in situations where I am about to install Docker, or go-lang, or something I am experimenting with and eventually come to the conclusion...not worth it to install. Should I fire up Garage Band? Nope, I probably will use i…

You can replace the ssd on that MacBook. It won’t be cheap, but storage that fast isn’t anyways. I have the 1tb ssd from a MacBook in my windows desktop

It won't be the same tho. The system doesn't detect it as a 'native' disc.

Re: iMac Pro

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Post by SirZimzim »

laichzeit0 wrote: post #136
fhood wrote: post #112

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I mean specifically. Is it a UI thing or something more technical?

Unless you've used something better than Finder, you will have no idea how much it actually sucks. I say this as a Mac user that's used Linux for most of his life: Finder sucks. I don't feel like hashing out all the reasons for why right now. Nothing I say on a little Internet forum will change that.

Yeah, my experience with Mac is that it "just works" after extensive configuration file edits and dozens of helper applications. I have never modified any other OS to this extent to get the basics working.

Re: iMac Pro

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Post by dharma1 »

gnicholas wrote: post #203
akvadrako wrote: post #201

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Not for the iMac Pro.

Very interesting – is this documented by Apple? Can’t imagine why they’d disallow this, though of course an iMac pro would be a very expensive external monitor....

"iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2014) and later iMac models can't be used as Target Display Mode displays."

From the page you linked. It hasn't been possible with new iMac models since 2014. I'd expect the Pro to be the same.

Personally I would love it if tablets and new iMacs had video input to enable use as external monitors but unfortunately not

Re: iMac Pro

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Post by gnicholas »

dharma1 wrote: post #207
gnicholas wrote: post #203

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Very interesting – is this documented by Apple? Can’t imagine why they’d disallow this, though of course an iMac pro would be a very expensive external monitor....

"iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2014) and later iMac models can't be used as Target Display Mode displays." From the page you linked. It hasn't been possible with new iMac models since 2014. I'd expect the Pro to be the same. Personally I would love it if tablets and new iMacs had video input to enable use as external monitors but unfortunately not

Wow, totally blew it on that one. Sorry! Like you, I wish this were still available on newer iMacs. I wonder why this useful feature was so short-lived.

Re: iMac Pro

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Post by styfle »

Caprinicus wrote: post #198
styfle wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tend to squeeze every penny and I have a bit of buyer's remorse for buying a refurbished MacBook 2015 with the smallest storage: 128 GB. Everything else is great, but I'm constantly finding myself in situations where I am about to install Docker, or go-lang, or something I am experimenting with and eventually come to the conclusion...not worth it to install. Should I fire up Garage Band? Nope, I probably will use i…

You can replace the ssd on that MacBook. It won’t be cheap, but storage that fast isn’t anyways. I have the 1tb ssd from a MacBook in my windows desktop

Do you have instructions on where to buy and how to install? Thanks!
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