I've done a lot of contract work as a software engineer over the past 5 years. It's a good way to experiment with a lot of different companies and industries. It's generally true that contractors can't get promoted within the company. It's not unusual to see 40+ year old contractors still working as engineers. The money is great but you really need to have a low risk investment strategy on the side... I don't think y…
When I was contracting in IT I liked that I wasn't looking for promotion, I could just get on with doing what I was good at. I haven't got the skills to be a project manager, head of department, CTO etc. Many of the permanent staff were always looking to their next cushy job in the company and were laden down with politics and not being constrained by that was great. I also liked moving to new companies, learning new…
Is the Rise of Contract Workers Killing Upward Mobility?
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#22I've done a lot of contract work as a software engineer over the past 5 years. It's a good way to experiment with a lot of different companies and industries. It's generally true that contractors can't get promoted within the company. It's not unusual to see 40+ year old contractors still working as engineers. The money is great but you really need to have a low risk investment strategy on the side... I don't think y…
As a contractor in the UK I feel like I have better pay and prospects than 90% of staff members. Not 'promotion', but more respect for my expertise and more choice about my working practices. 'Promotion' is not something I've often observed happening in any of the software departments I've worked with of late. It does scare me when people say things like "40+ contractors still working as engineers", as if 40 is old.…
So I'm going contracting, where I atleast get a little respect and my market value (approx 2x full time employement salary).
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is contracting in the US the same thing as contracting in the UK? The article doesn't seem to explain what a contractor is.
I have no idea! I get the impression that contracting in the US, at least in tech firms, is a lot less lucrative.
There are really two classes of 'contract work' in the US.
The first class is what I'd call skilled specialists. These are your independent marketing consultants, security experts, developers, designers, copywriters, etc. These folks are usually, but not always, fairly experienced. They take up contracting or consulting as a career choice, and while they have to hustle to stay above water, they accept the hustle as the price of freedom from a corporate life. Often they work remotely. If they're strong and well-networked, they have some leeway in negotiating fees and terms for their services. The catch is that there are very few availabilities on the market for their services at any given time, and most firms don't appropriately value those services. As such, skilled specialists thrive or stumble on the strength of their reputations and rolodexes. Many of them have served for years in the corporate world, or in high level academia. They may have the ability to reeenter corporate America at will, e.g., for a client who really wants to bring them in house.
The second class is what I'd call no-choice contractors. These are most often (but not always) younger workers, whom a company will hire for short term jobs, and then spit back out whenever it's done with them. Many of these workers are placed by temp agencies, or respond to open positions for fixed term jobs, and would probably take full time jobs if the jobs were available to them. This category includes seasonal hires, unskilled laborers, and skilled laborers placed at companies on short-term assignments with the vague (and usually fruitless) hope of ascending to full-time status.
Skilled specialists are a much smaller pool, on the whole, than no-choice contractors. And many skilled specialists are but one wrong decision, or bad run of luck, away from slipping into the no-choice pool.
If you're unfamiliar with US corporate culture, the best way to understand my distinction is to first realize that labor lost the war with capital here about 30-odd years ago. During the Reagan era, labor rights one might take for granted in Europe were effectively positioned here as socialistic, and thus cancerous to the 'competitiveness' (read: profit margins) of the firm. Wall Street and hedge funds, along with prevailing MBA management culture, have convinced us that the flexibility afforded to big firms by contracting out their jobs is necessarily a good thing. It allows them to be more nimble, and to operate with a higher degree of tactical freedom from quarter to quarter, or from year to year. More important, if not all important, is that a contract labor force is better in the short run for returning shareholder value.
This line of reasoning is very attractive, but almost too attractive. What we have now is a system, and a culture, that treats more and more jobs as holes to be filled, and which treats individuals not as prospects to be groomed, but as cogs to be worked hard and replaced when worn out. We have also traded strategic thinking for tactical thinking, and we no longer understand the difference. But that's a rant for another time, perhaps. :)
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#24I've done a lot of contract work as a software engineer over the past 5 years. It's a good way to experiment with a lot of different companies and industries. It's generally true that contractors can't get promoted within the company. It's not unusual to see 40+ year old contractors still working as engineers. The money is great but you really need to have a low risk investment strategy on the side... I don't think y…
As a contractor in the UK I feel like I have better pay and prospects than 90% of staff members. Not 'promotion', but more respect for my expertise and more choice about my working practices. 'Promotion' is not something I've often observed happening in any of the software departments I've worked with of late. It does scare me when people say things like "40+ contractors still working as engineers", as if 40 is old.…
Permanent members of staff seldom get the same money as skilled contractors and have to put up with a lot more restrictions around holiday and work life balance.
I would equate a contractor in the UK to being the equivalent experience of being a consultant without the politics and drama that comes with it. I have worked for almost a decade as a consultant in different countries and much prefer being a contractor to that.
Promotions seem to normally equate to more responsibility with a meagre if at all pay increase for permanent members of staff. People forget that there is only 1 CTO in an organisation, not everyone can ever get to that level. Most get stuck in middle management hell doing unfulfilling jobs.
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#25Yes. The problem is that automation will be taking even more jobs away in the near future. It’s going to be a hard transition for people.
We’ve heard the same argument throughout industrialization. And everything was fine. Nothing is uniquely different now. Starving blacksmith, out of work horse trainers; yet an entire new industry, the automobile essentially created from nothing that employed more, created more wealth than all horse related commerce in the history of the world. It’s arrogant to think that this time it’s different, that somehow our tec…
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#26> “One big issue is training,” notes Bidwell. “As an employee, your employer may pay to train you and keep you up to date on new technologies. They will also give you a chance to try new kinds of work and learn that way. As a contractor, nobody is paying for you to learn I've now been contracting as a developer for as long as I was a permanent employee and I've learnt more as a contractor. Sometimes it's been a bit o…
That's very different than what they're talking about. Firstly they're not talking about your kind of contracting. Secondly, as developers we have a lot of power and freedom because our job is to use the very tools which make it easy to learn. Other people need more formalised training, or help even getting started using the new tools. It feels like you're trying to blame the workers, the victims, here.
I read the article as covering all types of contracting, include my own.
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#27I've done mostly contract work because I liked the freedom when I was younger. Now I notice a lot of people my age have moved on to management or jobs "higher on the ladder" while I stress about the uncertainty of income when contracts end. I assume the lifestyle might suit people who are extraordinarily good networkers, but I feel mostly tired these days. My younger self didn't know about the fatigue the responsibil…
I've seen this happen a lot in full-time-only shops. It's possible it happens more often in shops that lean heavily on contract work, but it happens everywhere.
It takes strong technical leadership to keep that sort of technical debt quantified and prioritized without killing productivity. Especially since it's generally a huge strategic issue, but not something that generally sinks a project, department, or company overnight. So ignorant or unscrupulous leadership can run the show for extended periods of time, get promoted, and not be held accountable for making a problem worse by ignoring it.
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#28I've done mostly contract work because I liked the freedom when I was younger. Now I notice a lot of people my age have moved on to management or jobs "higher on the ladder" while I stress about the uncertainty of income when contracts end. I assume the lifestyle might suit people who are extraordinarily good networkers, but I feel mostly tired these days. My younger self didn't know about the fatigue the responsibil…
> ...I notice more and more graveyards of abandoned projects and services running without anybody present who was involved in building or setting up. I've seen this happen a lot in full-time-only shops. It's possible it happens more often in shops that lean heavily on contract work, but it happens everywhere. It takes strong technical leadership to keep that sort of technical debt quantified and prioritized without k…
"As an evolving program is continually changed, its complexity, reflecting deteriorating structure, increases unless work is done to maintain or reduce it." - Lehman.
The same is true with those old applications and services. They may have been running fine for years, but they are eventually going to have to be worked on.
The longer they wait, even though they are currently static, the more problematic they are going to be. They are going to break when something underneath them changes - and change is pretty inevitable. It's not just that they are going to break, the undocumented things built atop them are going to break.
I suspect I'm preaching to the choir, however.
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#29Yes. The problem is that automation will be taking even more jobs away in the near future. It’s going to be a hard transition for people.
But I've also been wondering if there might be a new kind of job coming, "person who does a new thing until it can be understood well enough to be 'autoficialized'."
Artificial intelligence may be great at running complex but well bounded problems, but intelligence of the wet kind probably won't be surpassed at recognizing and dealing with "exceptions" real-time for some time to come.
Also, AI will fail at being subversive, which is sometimes necessary. "I'm sorry Dave, I can't do that ..."
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#30I've done mostly contract work because I liked the freedom when I was younger. Now I notice a lot of people my age have moved on to management or jobs "higher on the ladder" while I stress about the uncertainty of income when contracts end. I assume the lifestyle might suit people who are extraordinarily good networkers, but I feel mostly tired these days. My younger self didn't know about the fatigue the responsibil…
Edit: somewhat connected tangent life experience thought I'm still a noob myself but I landed a long term contract developing a web application and I like being able to bill (invoice) and just get paid. It's a surprising thing haha, I haven't been working through UpWork in a while but that's still my primary place to look. I work a more-than-part time job in a restaurant (pays my bills as a restaurant drone). I am tr…
When you figure that out, you can work in selling the idea.