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Las Vegas Shooting Kills More Than 50

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> constitutional protection against tyranny The idea of a right to armed revolution is the whole problem. This is indistinguishable from terrorism.

I don’t quite follow. Would you mind explaining what you mean?

You have a revolution if you win. You're just a terrorist if you lose.

That's how I understood it anyway.

Re: Las Vegas Shooting Kills More Than 50

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> Have you been in any country that has this type of security in their hotels? Yes. It's common in India, though TBH the staff don't always seem to be paying that much attention. This is really all about priorities. If putting an end to this endless blood tide were a priority, we absolutely could take measures that would help. We could even do so without violating essential rights. There's a reasonable debate to be h…

If any of you want to stop a blood tide start with the cars. Or maybe join the NRA as a safety instructor. Argue for gun safes and mandatory training for young gun owners. That way you can actually reduce suffering since there is a possibility that someone will listen instead of write you off as a gungrabber. That way you can save even more lives.

> If any of you want to stop a blood tide start with the cars.

Which are already regulated more than guns are. It would be great if we were allowed to make the same kind of rational choices about guns that we make about cars. Thanks for bringing that up.

> Or maybe join the NRA as a safety instructor. Argue for gun safes and mandatory training for young gun owners.

Oh right, I should join an organization whose policy agenda I despise, and spend my own time doing something that would have no effect on people like yesterday's shooter instead of advocating for measures that might. So glad I have you to tell me how I should spend my time. Or was that just deflection, to prevent a discussion that might lead to a conclusion you don't like?

> instead of write you off as a gungrabber

I can't control whether someone someone can write me off as a "gungrabber" (telling phrase BTW) even after I explicitly said that I don't want to take away everyone's guns and that they have plenty of legitimate uses. That's up to them and their psychiatrists.

Re: Las Vegas Shooting Kills More Than 50

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Social engineer here. As a 64yo retired accountant with no military experience, terrorist connection or even police record, Stephen Paddock makes a most unconvincing suspect. All the false/diversive phonecalls (which is the primary causal factor of the high kill count) and ten ($20,000+) automatic weapons are much more suspicious than any possible motives regarding the 2012 property liability suit against Cosmopolitan Resorts or ongoing divorce. The only other relevant information are a 2003 single engine pilots license and an Alaska hunting license. Again, both unconvincing. I'm left wondering who made all the diversive calls?

Re: Las Vegas Shooting Kills More Than 50

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Have you been in any country that has this type of security in their hotels? Yes. It's common in India, though TBH the staff don't always seem to be paying that much attention. This is really all about priorities. If putting an end to this endless blood tide were a priority, we absolutely could take measures that would help. We could even do so without violating essential rights. There's a reasonable debate to be h…

If any of you want to stop a blood tide start with the cars. Or maybe join the NRA as a safety instructor. Argue for gun safes and mandatory training for young gun owners. That way you can actually reduce suffering since there is a possibility that someone will listen instead of write you off as a gungrabber. That way you can save even more lives.

That makes a lot of assumptions about the motives behind the people pushing for those measures which allegedly help. Your comment was absolutely on point regarding cars, but that was deflected in the response.
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