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It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by kuzimoto »

tomc1985 wrote: post #266
nextos wrote: post #256

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Firefox beta is very nice. My only (big) regret is that APIs that make Vimperator work are getting phased out. I can't live without Vimperator.

Or VideoDownloadHelper, or DownThemAll! :-( That said my dev edition self-updated last night and... holy shit, the new Firefox flies!

Not sure what you're downloading, but have you ever given youtube-dl (https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/) a try? It's got support for tons of other sites than just YouTube. It doesn't have a GUI, but it's pretty simple to use.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by jaipilot747 »

StavrosK wrote: post #249
jaipilot747 wrote: post #225

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Firefox for Android Beta currently has the Quantum update, and it's buttery smooth!

I got the beta two days ago and oh my God this thing is super fast. I used to dread opening web pages, now it's my favorite thing! I am extremely impressed with the work they did.

I don't know what changed, but at last the terrible lag when moving the cursor on text fields is gone. Loving it.

I do have to find the webextension equivalent of half my add-ons though.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by Larrikin »

I expressed fear in the last Firefox thread about losing my most essential add-on, Rikaisama, and it seems that the latest version of Firefox has officially killed it off.

However after a lot of searching I found Yomichan, which seems to be better in every way when compared to Rikaisama, but its fairly difficult to find. I highly recommend it to any Japanese learners looking for a replacement.

https://foosoft.net/projects/yomichan/

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Post by ShabbosGoy »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #288
freehunter wrote: post #223

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There are an awful lot of green user names lately shutting down conversations using things like "citation needed" or "prove it" on subjects where it's completely inconsequential or the conclusion is obvious. Everyone can easily see how old your account is and the devs of HN made it that way on purpose. Apologies if anyone here isn't willing to bend over backwards for the demands of an account that wasn't even created…

Is my account old enough for you? Sure, it "furthers their tracking and advertising network". But do they track you through chrome , as asked?

Chromium has been found to phone home on a regular basis. The data (or metadata) that is sent back is most likely beneficial for Google.

I have Google Analytics on my startup's SPA when it can't even be crawled by Google due to the framework we use. The only logical explanation is that Chrome sends data back on the sites you visit.

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Post by Karunamon »

noncoml wrote: post #227
syshum wrote: post #167

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So you are one of those that "Open Web" == performance only and you look the other way on things like EME, Pocket, and various other things that lower Privacy and betray the very foundation of the "Open Web"

That's as a bit unfair conclusion. I just believe that if Firefox dies then for sure "Open Web" will die. But, yeah, of course I am not happy with Pocket. But it still better than using Chrome.

At the risk of huge levels of snark, if the "open web" dies because Firefox dies (already a bit player in the browser wars, 11%ish), it was suicide, not murder.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by Karunamon »

freehunter wrote: post #223
JamesFM wrote: post #180

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Sorry to go off on you because this is a larger issue then your comment but seriously, can we hold this discussion to a higher standard? Prove to me that Google is tracking me through Chrome. Link me to an article with proof of collection. Most of us our developers here, surely we can apply some more rigor to this conversation then “we know Google is doing this because it’s Google”.

There are an awful lot of green user names lately shutting down conversations using things like "citation needed" or "prove it" on subjects where it's completely inconsequential or the conclusion is obvious. Everyone can easily see how old your account is and the devs of HN made it that way on purpose. Apologies if anyone here isn't willing to bend over backwards for the demands of an account that wasn't even created…

This kind of personal attacking is totally uncalled for here. Either their statement is correct or it is not, either Chrome is doing tracking on the sly or it is not.

Either there is proof, or there is not. The burden of proof is on the one making the argument.

So which is it?

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by digi_owl »

riquito wrote: post #291
digi_owl wrote: post #178

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That's basically a wrapper around Webview, that in turn is chrome based...

That's true on IOS but on Android is the real thing

https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/focus-android/wiki/Archite...

Notice that they could not support Android 4.4 because they would require using geckoview.

Also, there is no way a browser of only 4MB can contain a whole web engine. The only Android browsers that get so small depend on webview.

Consider this, even the old Presto based Opera Mobile clocked in at 15MB on Android.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by incompatible »

koolba wrote: post #274
ricw wrote: post #259

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That is not representative of either the time frame or the resources available to Mozilla. Mozilla has had Hundreds of millions of annual income through their search associations [1]. It’s surprising how they’ve wasted that amount of money to finally in 2017 build a browser that can compete again. This is 9 years after google chrome was released! They have absolutely no excuse for falling this far behind. They squand…

You can't say Mozilla and squander in the same sentence without referencing their phone OS.

Google has had quite a few failed projects too, although admittedly their phone OS has been more successful.
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