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It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by sf_rob »

Jerry2 wrote: post #206
sf_rob wrote: post #188

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I think that it's likely because Apple has much more leverage and their major source of funding isn't their browser. I could imagine a world where ad-based services started blocking/paywalling Firefox user-agents. Hopefully now that Apple has opened the door Mozilla is safe to walk through too.

You actually think that websites would ban Firefox' user agent?!?

Publishers are already treating adblock (not tracking protection) users far more aggressively than they have in the past. I imagine if the number of users that are hampering advertiser value went up by an order of magnitude that these publishers may react in a far more aggressive way.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by KGIII »

51Cards wrote: post #98
SirensOfTitan wrote: post #48

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Very few people are bothered by the movement to WebExtensions, multi-process, or removal of complete themes. Many, however, have stopped using the browser as it has felt slow and clunky for quite a while now. The recent changes have actually attracted me back to the platform after a decade of using Chrome.

I am however one of those. While I understand the technical reasons for the switch I don't think it has been handled well. Extensions I rely on daily are going to cease functioning because the WebExtensions API isn't mature enough for the developers to migrate. Are they going to wait? Probably not... most affected will probably abandon their projects because FF rushed the transition and their user base is about to dr…

Rushed? It was announced more than two years ago, as I recall.

Hmm... August, 2015.

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Post by thereare5lights »

krapp wrote: post #217
Forbo wrote: post #211

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Profits are unpaid wages.

Profits are paid to shareholders. Wages are the cost your employer pays to allow you to generate more profit for shareholders. "Profits are unpaid wages" is a nonsensical statement.

This is only true if your company operates to maximize shareholder value. If your company exists to serve its employees as its first priority, then your statement is false.

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Post by ReverseCold »

kkylin wrote: post #124
rightos wrote: post #2

I was extremely skeptical of all the changes they were doing - I said it myself 100 times, "they're just building a Chrome clone, they're killing all the features I like in favor of speed". But here I am, running Nightly because holy shit this thing flies. Their work has paid off and they're not even done yet. Webrender is coming, it's not quite stable enough for daily use yet (mostly just graphics glitching and inte…

I'm not even running Nightly, just switched to 57 beta. It's a big improvement on 55 & 56 (which already felt faster than older versions).

They broke something in the latest nightlies, my fans become really loud when I open it for a while (high CPU usage). You're better off in beta right now until they fix it.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by tqkxzugoaupvwqr »

Does the latest version get video hardware decoding when it is stable? I like the new Firefox’s speed but YouTube videos shoot up to 40–100% CPU usage while Safari’s impact is so low the fan doesn’t even spin up. Tested Firefox Dev Edition 57 beta on macOS High Sierra.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by [deleted] »

JamesFM wrote: post #180
freehunter wrote: post #94

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>Citation needed. A company known for tracking the ever-loving shit out of everyone across the Internet distributes a best-in-class web browser absolutely for free. If that's not enough, I really hope you're able to hold on to that innocence as you start using the Internet more and more in the future.

Sorry to go off on you because this is a larger issue then your comment but seriously, can we hold this discussion to a higher standard? Prove to me that Google is tracking me through Chrome. Link me to an article with proof of collection. Most of us our developers here, surely we can apply some more rigor to this conversation then “we know Google is doing this because it’s Google”.

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Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by teddyfrozevelt »

largote wrote: post #240

Is there a plugin for it to use Chrome sync? I'm way too invested in Chrome sync to lose it at this point.

What would you lose? You can just import the bookmarks and find alternate addons.

If you have passwords Xmarks isn't a webextension but you can use it on Firefox 56 and then upgrade.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by maxxxxx »

cpeterso wrote: post #174
maxxxxx wrote: post #107

FF56 has a weird problem. It seems all keyboard shortcuts are extremely slow with a delay of several seconds. For example closing a tab with "X" is fast, but pressing "Command+W" causes several seconds delay. Has anyone else seen this problem?

Maybe check the macOS Activity Monitor or top to see if there are any processes hogging the CPU.

It's only the keyboard. the same action with the mouse is fast.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox another chance

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Post by StavrosK »

jaipilot747 wrote: post #225
cpeterso wrote: post #154

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The Quantum project includes more than Stylo and WebRender. There are lots of small performance fixes ("Quantum Flow") in core Gecko code that should improve performance on Android. Stylo for Android is currently targeting Firefox 59. I don't know if WebRender will support Android.

Firefox for Android Beta currently has the Quantum update, and it's buttery smooth!

I got the beta two days ago and oh my God this thing is super fast. I used to dread opening web pages, now it's my favorite thing! I am extremely impressed with the work they did.
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