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The rise and fall of Ext JS

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Re: The rise and fall of Ext JS

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if memory serves me right, ExtJs is popular in NAS solutions such as synology and openmediavault, not sure how this will play out for them.

They can keep running and developing on the old version they use. I think my synology uses ExtJs 3. As a user, I could not care less - still works....

Re: The rise and fall of Ext JS

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What the community probably didn't realise is that bills had to be paid in a tough situation. The price rise was not something they did out of greed but rather something of a last ditch effort to be profitable.

I can believe that. I doubt anyone in the industry is so blind as to think this move would not anger people and hurt the long term.

Re: The rise and fall of Ext JS

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The article has one false assumption, "that IDERA is a company that focuses on SQL & other IT performance tools". It's not. They started focusing on developer tools in 2015, acquiring Embarcadero (Delphi and C++Builder.)

Disclosure: I work there. So I know that they are more than the article says ;)

I personally would suggest waiting and seeing what happens. Usually when there is an acquisition it is a good opportunity to correct mistakes the previous owner made. I'd suggest the author of this article actually contact Idera, let them know his thoughts, rather than posting a blog only. There are real people at the company and they'll read feedback, and now is a good time.

Re: The rise and fall of Ext JS

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> 2005: Smart phones did not exist. Yeah, ok.

Well, yeah. Phones at that time were mostly just laid out to render WAP pages only, if anything at all. And virtually nobody used that feature. Phones actually rending HTML/CSS/JS in a useful way came years later, roughly 2007+.

>> Phones at that time were mostly just laid out to render WAP pages only

Well, phones in general maybe. Smart phones and PDAs like the iPaq running Windows CE (or whatever it was called - it had so many name changes I lost track) had a half decent version of IE on them.

Back around 2004-2005, you were universally mocked for putting a giant screen against your face when making a phone call. Kinda funny considering how big screen phones are so popular today.

Some of those Windows devices even had decent res. I had a Toshiba e800 (pda, not phone) in 2004 and it had a VGA screen, which was quite sharp (esp considering that even the original iPhone in 2007 had only 320x480).

Re: The rise and fall of Ext JS

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The article has one false assumption, "that IDERA is a company that focuses on SQL & other IT performance tools". It's not. They started focusing on developer tools in 2015, acquiring Embarcadero (Delphi and C++Builder.) Disclosure: I work there. So I know that they are more than the article says ;) I personally would suggest waiting and seeing what happens. Usually when there is an acquisition it is a good opportuni…

It's great that you work there, but that does not necessarily mean you know more about the place than someone who does not. So tired of this line of argument being used, especially to defend companies like Google and Facebook. Employees are often the least informed of anyone.

Re: The rise and fall of Ext JS

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The article has one false assumption, "that IDERA is a company that focuses on SQL & other IT performance tools". It's not. They started focusing on developer tools in 2015, acquiring Embarcadero (Delphi and C++Builder.) Disclosure: I work there. So I know that they are more than the article says ;) I personally would suggest waiting and seeing what happens. Usually when there is an acquisition it is a good opportuni…

IDERA fired the entire Ext JS dev team yesterday.

Re: The rise and fall of Ext JS

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For me, Ext was the bridge between Flex/flash development to more native SPA programming after Steve Jobs decided it would kill Flash. It held my hand as I learned Javascript, and it gave me the space to fail when I realized I couldn't use for-in in a javascript app. It also hid away the core functionality under such a huge layer of abstractions that it was impossible to debug anything in the framework. I loved Ext though.

Re: The rise and fall of Ext JS

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We used to be in an era where Java developers had JSF and .NET developers had Webforms - two technologies that were the perfect storm for component vendors. This is all falling apart now that we have npm and webpack - and the only thing Java or .NET are good for is the REST service infrastructure they provide. No company should be using Webforms or JSF type technologies anymore.

So we've gone from using components with lifecycles - in the form on JSF and Web Forms, to using components with lifecycles - in the form of React and Angular.

I'm not knocking React or Angular - I use and enjoy them both. And I find it much more convenient to have components that live entirely in the browser instead of trying to maintain a stateful UI server-side; I certainly don't find Web Forms or JSF development to be very enjoyable.

I just find it mildly amusing that front-end web development seems to continually re-discover old concepts. That's certainly not a bad thing; better to re-discover good old concepts than to forget them completely.

Re: The rise and fall of Ext JS

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I started JS in 2011 with ExtJS 4 and it was pretty awesome.

Later it got too bloated and expensive and I switched to Ember.

Whole other thing. Missed all the widgets ExtJS had out of the box. Also, it seemed that Ember used MVC like ExtJS, but had a totally different idea about it.

Now use React and craft most widgets by hand, didn't expect a framework to be so flexible.

React components feel like using the ExtJS xTypes again, really nice.

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