Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

Post by Sylos » Tue, Sep 26, 2017, 5:19 PM UTC

baby wrote: post #129

gepoch wrote: post #49

Lots of comments from people suffering issues and missing their favorite plugins, so I thought I'd jump in as a former Chrome user. Firefox quantum is really very good. This is the first time in a long time that I've been able to entertain switching browsers. It is at least on par with the speed of chrome, and since I'm moving from chrome, I'm not really missing any Firefox plugins too much. I've been able to port my…

I think I'm not the only who wished Tree Style Tabs was integrated as a default feature of Firefox. It's a primordial configuration to your browsing experience but it's been constantly stabbed and fixed at every update of Firefox.

Post by maturz » Tue, Sep 26, 2017, 5:22 PM UTC

baby wrote: post #127

DiabloD3 wrote: post #44

As someone that jumped ship from how slow Chrome has gotten and went to Nightly /w Stylo and (CPU threads - 1) e10s processes enabled about 2 monthsish ago... Holy damn Firefox is actually fast. Fair comparison, both having Pocket, uBlock, Evernote, OneNote, Pushbullet, and Bitwarden; neither of them having an extension the other doesn't. Above described Firefox Nightly config vs Chrome Dev. Test machines are a works…

I run 60 tabs in Firefox atm, takes 2.14GB (obviously I'm using Tree Style Tabs). Runs smoothly.

Post by low_battery » Tue, Sep 26, 2017, 5:26 PM UTC

Sylos wrote: post #237

low_battery wrote: post #154

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Unfortunately, as long as Firefox security infrastructure does not match Chrome, I can not use it. Note that errors like use-after-free and buffer overflows are marked as Critical (run arbitrary code on computer) for Firefox, but marked as High (execute code in the context of, or otherwise impersonate other origins.) for Chrome because of sandboxing. Firefox: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/known-vulnerabiliti…

As Mr. Patrick Walton over there said, Mozilla is still building up the exact, minimal file-system permissions. So, yes, in that way it is still not yet on quite the same level as Chrome. In terms of security architecture, there is to my knowledge only one bigger difference left and you can change that, if you want. The difference is that Chrome will spawn a new process for every new tab (unless the webpage in it is…

Post by vetinari » Tue, Sep 26, 2017, 5:28 PM UTC

RichieAHB wrote: post #211

driverdan wrote: post #84

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I'd like to see the same comparison on a Mac. The Windows version of Firefox has been close to Chrome performance for a while. The Mac version has been significantly slower.

Just ran the tests on my Macbook Pro (mid 2012) running High Sierra: Safari TP 11.1 Release 40 - 62.71 Chrome Canary 63.0.3221.0 - 55.45 Firefox Dev Edition 57.0b3 - 44.17 Not sure whether this would be borne out on later Macs but this seems to confirm my anecdotal experience on my Mac in the last few days, even since 57 came out.

    Firefox 55.0.3              - 71.4
    Firefox Dev Edition 57.0b3  - 113
    Chrome 61.0.3163.100        - 136

Post by callahad » Tue, Sep 26, 2017, 5:29 PM UTC

TuringTest wrote: post #202

etatoby wrote: post #115

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I have switched from Tree Style Tabs to the Test Pilot vertical tab extension (I don't remember the exact name) plus the about:config option that makes them always small, plus a few lines of userChrome.css to make the close button larger, like it was in one of the first versions. I recommend it.

It was called Tab Center, but now the experiment has ended. Is there a way to install the extension now? https://testpilot.firefox.com/experiments/tab-center