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When I asked Tinder for my data, it sent me 800 pages of my deepest secrets

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Re: When I asked Tinder for my data, it sent me 800 pages of my deepest secrets

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Post by doktrin »

emodendroket wrote: post #87
thunderman10 wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's around 220 matches a year since shes had the app, so like 18 matches per month for four years... She matched with a new guy every two days basically, and he mentioned she only sent 1700 messages since she started. That's almost two average messages per match before getting bored and moving on. With that much abundance of choice, I guess you could say life is nice and easy for the author.

Well, you could say that, but is it true? Perhaps the post-match experience isn't necessarily very good, and anyway I'm not sure raw quantity maximizes anything normal people care about.

The going stereotype about Tinder is that most men (all but the most attractive) match poorly while most women (all but the least attractive) match well - but that (again, most) women nonetheless experience a lack of communication post-match.

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Post by npsimons »

Jdam wrote: post #67

Tl;dr Tinder stored her messages and pics and she was embarrassed reading them again.

Shit, if I dig deep enough in Usenet or my email archive (going back to the nineties!), I can easily find some cringe worthy things written by me. It's actually rather humbling and enlightening.

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Post by TeMPOraL »

emodendroket wrote: post #69
ronnier wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rumor is that snap keeps messages in google cloud compute encrypted. When messages are expired or read by the user, they just delete the encryption key.

Why would they do that? Keeping around a bunch of blobs nobody can decrypt seems like a huge waste of resources.

Probably for the same reason your hard drive doesn't actually delete data when you tell the OS to delete it, except that in this case, if implemented correctly, the data would become truly unrecoverable immediately.

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Post by sangnoir »

dagenleg wrote: post #89
pnutjam wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm loath to go down this rabbit hole, but wouldn't you also assume that migrants are the most tenacious and smartest, since they managed to survive huge changes, go somewhere new, and try to build something? It seems like migrants are self selecting for smarter people, although IQ tests are notoriously slanted by cultural expectations an societal norms and seem to be a poor method of measuring this.

I also don't like rabbit holes, but tenacity and smartness are really not the same thing.

It's a distinction without a difference in this case because both are positive attributes to have in immigrants (independently or jointly).

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Post by dopamean »

blevs wrote: post #64
turc1656 wrote: post #56

It just dawned on me that Tinder is basically the new and improved version of Zuckerberg's original creation - Facesmash. Except Tinder can do so much more than that. And amusingly, Tinder is hailed as a great app while Facesmash was decried as a way of dehumanizing and objectifying people. My, how far we have come.

I think a big part of that is people consent to being on tinder.

Absolutely. That also says something about the difference in the times. Zuckerberg forced people onto Facemash probably because he thought it would be easier than getting people to sign up voluntarily.

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Post by dejawu »

I got fed up with Tinder's Android client and reverse-engineered their API (this was back when the Android security model let you use mitmproxy). Two things stood out to me:

1. The AI was kind of hacky. Updates were done by polling rather than push. There were a lot of unused fields - for example, "remaining likes" would hang at 100 until the likes were used up, then it would go straight to 0.

2. They tracked absolutely every action you took and sent it to a different server from the API requests. Opening settings, opening your own profile, opening someone else's profile - it was all logged. They knew exactly what you were doing in the app and for how long.

It wouldn't surprise me nowadays if this is standard practice but it was eye-opening to see it happening firsthand.

Re: When I asked Tinder for my data, it sent me 800 pages of my deepest secrets

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Post by NiklasMort »

emodendroket wrote: post #70
NiklasMort wrote: post #49

tip for starters: never ever use your real identity for online services if not absolutely necessary

That seems a little hard to navigate on a dating app.

Why? Lot of people use aliases or nicknames. I never had issues doing that.
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