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When I asked Tinder for my data, it sent me 800 pages of my deepest secrets

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Re: When I asked Tinder for my data, it sent me 800 pages of my deepest secrets

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Post by aaronhoffman »

eksemplar wrote: post #40
zoltaan wrote: post #27

I always felt a bit silly logging in to Facebook in a private browser window in every other week, many times through a VPN. Also not sharing much more than jokes and cartoons or memes. Not to mention my absense from the hip social web, including Tinder, but many more as well. I don't feel silly anymore. :) (btw: my name is not zoltaan ;) )

They still build profiles on you though. When you phones wifi is near someone with an android phone or a Facebook app they'll handshake and tell the interwebs where you are and with whom.

Do you have a link to more info about this?

Re: When I asked Tinder for my data, it sent me 800 pages of my deepest secrets

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Post by aaronhoffman »

vijayr wrote: post #34
donquichotte wrote: post #32

> A few months earlier, 70,000 profiles from OkCupid (owned by Tinder’s parent company Match Group) were made public by a Danish researcher some commentators have labelled a “white supremacist”, who used the data to try to establish a link between intelligence and religious beliefs. The guy's name is Emil Kirkegaard and the paper and data is still available. I skimmed the paper and have no idea why he was labled a "w…

Is there any tool (chrome extension or whatever) that'll take an article and give thumbs up or down depending on crap like "some commentators", "anonymous sources", "allegedly" etc? So people can simply skip over such articles?

I tried to create one once that would do this and follow the author around to other articles. Could not figure out the go to market strategy. Still have the domain betweenTheBylines .com

Re: When I asked Tinder for my data, it sent me 800 pages of my deepest secrets

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Post by pdehaye2 »

donquichotte wrote: post #32

> A few months earlier, 70,000 profiles from OkCupid (owned by Tinder’s parent company Match Group) were made public by a Danish researcher some commentators have labelled a “white supremacist”, who used the data to try to establish a link between intelligence and religious beliefs. The guy's name is Emil Kirkegaard and the paper and data is still available. I skimmed the paper and have no idea why he was labled a "w…

Hi, I am the person who is cited in the article and who helped Judith get access to her data. If you are interested in the OKCupid story, Judith also wrote about this in more details, also with my input. https://www.letemps.ch/sciences/2017/04/07/laboratoire-fake-...

Re: When I asked Tinder for my data, it sent me 800 pages of my deepest secrets

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Post by beager »

slamdance wrote: post #7
thestephen wrote: post #4

"Some 800 pages came back containing information such as my Facebook “likes”, my photos from Instagram (even after I deleted the associated account)" It's going to be interesting to see how Tinder tackles the 2018 EU General Data Protection Regulation in 2018 and how things will play out in courts and practice. For example, are you allowed to store information that I have chosen to unlink? Will Tinder have an easy wa…

I think worst case (best case?) scenario is that they will 'copy' the data they're not supposed to keep off to another country, maybe anonymize it but otherwise the data will still be there. Its too important - even in anonymized form. Its capable of helping sociologists, medical researchers, advertisers, etc... They don't need to know that "James. T. McLovin' of 123 Happy Lane, went on 15 dates and slept with 3 wome…

> and slept with 3 women

At first I thought "how would they know that" but it's simple: establish "home" for each of a match pair and identify that both parties' devices are at one or the other "home" during certain hours after matching.

In that sense, it's more than just data, it's inference, and that's almost worse as a private company's data could end up libeling you if it leaks!

Re: When I asked Tinder for my data, it sent me 800 pages of my deepest secrets

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Post by kuschku »

slamdance wrote: post #12
nicktelford wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The country the data resides in is irrelevant. If the data is about an EU citizen, that's all that matters. I believe the company in question would also need a legal entity in the EU in order for the EU to prosecute them, as I don't think you can take (e.g.) an American company to an EU court. IANAL though.

eh. Maybe. If they copy the data to a 3rd party in America (i.e. sell the data a marketing company, for "research" purposes), then the EU can't really go after the marketing company. I'm not saying it's right. I don't see why they couldn't anonymize the data (morally or ethically). But, I don't own a marketing company.

Actually, the EU wrote into the GDPR that they can do exactly that. Any company with data on EU citizen is liable, no matter where they got it from.

Re: When I asked Tinder for my data, it sent me 800 pages of my deepest secrets

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Post by donquichotte »

pdehaye2 wrote: post #43
donquichotte wrote: post #32

> A few months earlier, 70,000 profiles from OkCupid (owned by Tinder’s parent company Match Group) were made public by a Danish researcher some commentators have labelled a “white supremacist”, who used the data to try to establish a link between intelligence and religious beliefs. The guy's name is Emil Kirkegaard and the paper and data is still available. I skimmed the paper and have no idea why he was labled a "w…

Hi, I am the person who is cited in the article and who helped Judith get access to her data. If you are interested in the OKCupid story, Judith also wrote about this in more details, also with my input. https://www.letemps.ch/sciences/2017/04/07/laboratoire-fake-...

Thanks for the clarification.

Just a brief look on the titles of the Kirkegaard's other publications seems to confirm that he appears to have a deep interest in immigration, genetics, crime and IQ. One of his independent papers even mention cranial volume, which sounds vaguely familiar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_racism#Craniometry_...

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