Why did science fiction stop moving forward?

Post by cholantesh » Mon, Sep 25, 2017, 11:57 PM UTC

occultist_throw wrote: post #14

ashark wrote: post #8

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A nod-ignore-and-keep-reading Lit Crit academese filler thing, then? I guess it stood out to me because the review doesn't have much of that, otherwise, and because the paragraph it's in seemed to be making some kind of point, though I couldn't decipher what it was in such a way that that sentence contributed anything.

Truthfully, these days if I see SJW buzzwords, I just skip over the rest of the text. It's not worth subjecting oneself in that sort of groupthink - lest you eat babies. Because if you don't agree with them, you must assuredly agree with rape, sex crimes, and eating babies. There is no middle ground. There is no discussion. Only fuming mouths. Are there wrongs? Absolutely. But we can tackle those when we have clear e…

Post by krapp » Tue, Sep 26, 2017, 12:45 AM UTC

cannonedhamster wrote: post #11

ashark wrote: post #3

> This show is post-racism, but still believes in “culture” with a Victorian faith in white mythologies I'm fairly literate in Liberal Arts English, but I don't follow what this means, especially as the context around it seems to complain about portrayals of race . What does it mean to "believe in 'culture' with a Victorian faith in white mythologies"? What does that modifier mean about one's belief in culture (whate…

It means that the Victorian appeal of claiming oneself above the "savages" of wherever the British Empire was conquering. The writer is equating the story of Discovery with the story the British told themselves about colonialism. The reference is that The Federation is the British and the Klingons are the savages.

Post by metaphorm » Tue, Sep 26, 2017, 2:03 AM UTC

eesmith wrote: post #102

metaphorm wrote: post #90

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Trump is deliberately using the language and tactics of his political enemies against them in a kind of counter-trolling demagoguery. This is ugly stuff. The discourse has descended to the level where the media is dominated by two different groups of extremist trolls taking potshots at each other using the language of outrage and grievance. The rest of us are caught in the middle and our society is becoming deranged…

How can you tell? Perhaps he's using the language because he really thinks it's meaningful? How do you know there isn't only one group of extremist trolls? If two groups disagree, they don't have to be balanced yin and yang. If two groups disagree, the real answer doesn't have to lie in the middle. In the 1850s US, there were pro-slavers and anti-slavers. Who was in the middle, and were they right? But hey, I watch D…

Post by maxerickson » Tue, Sep 26, 2017, 3:38 AM UTC

busterarm wrote: post #110

metaphorm wrote: post #84

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Romulans are emphatically not dark and barbaric, they're "evil" Vulcans, and aesthetically modeled on various European Imperial iconographies with lots of Eagle/raptor symbolism. Ancient Roman (it's in the name already) or even 20th century Fascist seems like the reference points. The Cardashians seem to be based on Totalitarian Communist regimes. They have grey skin, which isn't dark, but is also not a human skinton…

They look different than us and follow different societal norms, right? Forest. Trees.

Post by eesmith » Tue, Sep 26, 2017, 7:13 AM UTC

busterarm wrote: post #116

busterarm wrote: post #110

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They look different than us and follow different societal norms, right? Forest. Trees.

Moreover: you know how someone is going to behave...because of their race. ST is the most racist show ever.