I was 17 once. I could code once. What's the best way to spend your time? Basking in the sun. Finding a scam to score some schnapps or beer or weed. Telling somebody you love them, and just going for it. Recklessly driving a car at a high rate of speed down an old country road. Learn how to play a bass guitar. Spend your waning hours getting your hands dirty while there's still time, and before the world judges you t…
I hate the notion that once you become an adult it's too late to enjoy yourself. Everything you suggested he do can also be done as an adult. Quite frankly, some people just aren't interested in doing stupid typical teenage stuff. I could code at 17, but I focused on school until I graduated. Then I got a job doing freelance game development when I was 18. Paid better than stacking shelves at the local grocery store…
Ask HN: What is the best way to spend my time as a 17-year-old who can code?
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Re: Ask HN: What is the best way to spend my time as a 17-year-old who can code?
#182Earlier quoted context omitted.
You _do_ realize Flash is dead, right?
Yes, but sifdine is dead too, so there you go. So to summarize the advice from the dead to jmeyer2k: 1) Don't use Flash. 2) Whatever tools or languages or libraries you choose to use and put a lot of time into learning and becoming proficient at, don't sweat it when the die, just move on to better tools. It will happen again and again. It gets easier and easier each time.
(I guess I commented because I honestly couldn't quite understand or figure out the logic that went into sifdine's comments.)
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#183Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, but sifdine is dead too, so there you go. So to summarize the advice from the dead to jmeyer2k: 1) Don't use Flash. 2) Whatever tools or languages or libraries you choose to use and put a lot of time into learning and becoming proficient at, don't sweat it when the die, just move on to better tools. It will happen again and again. It gets easier and easier each time.
I wanted to mention my thanks for (2). Knowing it gets easier is very helpful to know. (I guess I commented because I honestly couldn't quite understand or figure out the logic that went into sifdine's comments.)
Don't forget to readjust your "don't even think of that because it's impossible" filters each paradigm shift.
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#184Apply Computational Thinking to solving a given problem. Break it down into completeable tasks.
You can work on multiple canvasses at once: sometimes it's helpful to let things simmer on the back burner while you're taking care of business. Just don't spread yourself too thin: everyone deserves your time.
Remember ERG theory (and Maslow's Hierarchy). Health and food and shelter are obviously important.
Keep lists of good ideas. Notecards, git, a nice fresh blank sheet of paper for the #someday folder. What to call it isn't important yet. "Thing1" and "Thing2".
You can spend time developing a portfolio, building up your skills, and continuing education. You can also solve a problem now.
You don't need a co-founder at first. You do need to plan to be part of a team: other people are good at other things; and that's the part they most enjoy doing.
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#185Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree a lot with what you said. But I always recommend people travel internationally in their 20s. Sure you can do it when you’re older. And it is still amazing. But there is something about traveling in your youth that can’t be captured later in life.
My theory, as a youth you are exploring yourself as you explore the world and it feels so epic. As an adult you are just looking at stuff and eating.
If someone is only "looking at stuff and eating" as they explore the world, then they have given up on exploring themselves (maybe temporarily, maybe permanently). There is plenty of opportunity and reward for growing ("exploring oneself") when you're older, and choosing not to is simply the path of least resistance that many/most people seem to take.
Lots of younger people seem to think that the spirit of life starts to die after some age (30?) or life event (having kids?), but based on people I know who have passed these milestones, that is completely not a fait accompli. Quite the contrary.
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#186I was 17 once. I could code once. What's the best way to spend your time? Basking in the sun. Finding a scam to score some schnapps or beer or weed. Telling somebody you love them, and just going for it. Recklessly driving a car at a high rate of speed down an old country road. Learn how to play a bass guitar. Spend your waning hours getting your hands dirty while there's still time, and before the world judges you t…
I did go out drinking sometimes and it was fun but living it up depends on your personality and if you are not naturally social its probably not going to be enjoyable pretending to be that guy. Plus at 17 everyone will see through it and not be polite about it.
I don't regret studying hard at 17. I had a passion and enjoyed learning. Was a great part of my life when other things were not so great.
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#187The main ways to get paid well or get rich and work on your terms is to run a business, trade assets or invest well.
20000 hrs of cranking out JIRA tickets loses its luster. Companies rarely invest in their employees career.
Make of this what you will
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#188Half go down the alternative route. They've been largely working full-time from 16, while doing a bit of college, and most of them look at their peers at work and decide that university isn't for them. They've already got a job, and the whole point of going to uni was to get the job they're already doing. A few of them move on, and they do fairly well. The problem I've found is that they're not getting paid as much as some of their peers, even if their job title is greater than their peers at a younger age. They also seem to pigeon-hole themselves into a given stack, and while they are happy to move along with that stack, they set their goals too low. Sure, it's great to be the genius kid that is working on large-scale projects at 18, but in a few years you'll just be another young developer, that is probably bored of building the same old shit for ten years when everyone else is still enthusiastic about CRUD CMS applications.
Half of the others go down the uni route, and most of them seem to be much happier, depending on how much focus they've put into their studies. I've seen some child geniuses go to shitty universities because they couldn't be arsed to study for their A Levels, but study something that legitimately interests them. One went on to study Mechanical Engineering and went back into software development. I think he interned at Microsoft during uni, and now he works at some FinTech startup in London. One of them did pretty well and ended up studying CS at Edinburgh, saying that going to uni as an already decent developer helped him relax into the environment while others were learning how to write code for their projects. I'm not sure what he's up to at the moment, but he went from a fairly stressed out kid to a happy young man, so it obviously worked out well for him!
Since you're 17, I'd think about what your dream scenario would be. Do you want to study CS? Is there something else that would interest you? Ultimately, if you want to be a coder, do you need CS? I have a CS degree, and it's helped me a ton, but I've worked with plenty of great developers that pursued other degrees. That other degree might open up other avenues for you, whether it's business or law or biology. The only real advice I'd give you is to ace your IT/CS classes at school, and focus that time elsewhere.
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#189Re: Ask HN: What is the best way to spend my time as a 17-year-old who can code?
#190Find some open source project(s) that you are interested in and has a friendly community. Get into developing for that and learning how you actually not that great of a programmer ;) Get better, immerse yourself. Go to college in the next year or two, that's important. But also keep a balance and do things you can't do when you are in your 30s. Get physically active in some fun sports, learn how to compete and make f…
"Make mistakes, they are cheaper to correct at your age." No, no they're not. The "be stupid early" plan is a major fail IRL. The idea that society will forgive you for it is proven wrong every day. When employers look for anything to disqualify you, that old FB post with you being stupid is made to order, or the arrest for DUI, or any of those early mistakes, are very handy. It's actually much harder to overcome ear…