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Ask HN: What is the best way to spend my time as a 17-year-old who can code?

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Re: Ask HN: What is the best way to spend my time as a 17-year-old who can code?

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I was 17 once. I could code once. What's the best way to spend your time? Basking in the sun. Finding a scam to score some schnapps or beer or weed. Telling somebody you love them, and just going for it. Recklessly driving a car at a high rate of speed down an old country road. Learn how to play a bass guitar. Spend your waning hours getting your hands dirty while there's still time, and before the world judges you t…

I hate the notion that once you become an adult it's too late to enjoy yourself. Everything you suggested he do can also be done as an adult. Quite frankly, some people just aren't interested in doing stupid typical teenage stuff. I could code at 17, but I focused on school until I graduated. Then I got a job doing freelance game development when I was 18. Paid better than stacking shelves at the local grocery store…

I agree a lot with what you said.

But I always recommend people travel internationally in their 20s. Sure you can do it when you’re older. And it is still amazing.

But there is something about traveling in your youth that can’t be captured later in life.

Re: Ask HN: What is the best way to spend my time as a 17-year-old who can code?

#132
I’m 24. I work in google and make 600k/year as L5.

Stop hearing this cool open source projects stuff.

1. Be good at interviews and get 10 offers from all tech companies. 2. Work hard for 50hours per week and make sure you are getting smarter and smarter everyday.

Re: Ask HN: What is the best way to spend my time as a 17-year-old who can code?

#133
lol launch a democracy bot

anythingbot, chaosbot

If you do, post it to HN, /r/javascript and /r/programming

If you want money, go to /r/personalfinance and ask for help

I would avoid making money with code. Google and Facebook are evil, period. If you try to make money with code, you deal with the devil eventually.

Re: Ask HN: What is the best way to spend my time as a 17-year-old who can code?

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I used to ask the same questions when younger and I used to feel guilty many times simply because I would go out with friends some weekend instead of Learning or working on my next big idea. So my advice is there is no best way, aim for the good enough, persistence is key, and eliminate guilt. It's not about who hits harder, it's about who keeps hitting.

Re: Ask HN: What is the best way to spend my time as a 17-year-old who can code?

#135

I was 17 once. I could code once. What's the best way to spend your time? Basking in the sun. Finding a scam to score some schnapps or beer or weed. Telling somebody you love them, and just going for it. Recklessly driving a car at a high rate of speed down an old country road. Learn how to play a bass guitar. Spend your waning hours getting your hands dirty while there's still time, and before the world judges you t…

I'm 21, and everybody I know who did this is either already burned out or in a precarious life position of some sort.

OP, don't listen to this crap here's the stuff I wish I'd done four years ago:

- Look at real systems in the wild and ask yourself "Could I build that?", if the answer is no figure out how to and try it. I mean websites, command line tools, applications. Once you start looking at the world of computing through this lens and thinking about it you realize just how much you still don't know.

- Focus on the CS fundamentals, look up the algorithms textbooks employers will have expected you to read during college and get a start on them early. The fundamentals change much slower than the latest web framework, and if you master them you'll be employable for much longer than someone who only has a long string of obsolete web frameworks to their name in 20 years.

- If you have any hobbies you'd like to pursue, find a good book on them and do it now because you're actually not going to have all that much time later. Especially if you're pushing yourself and pursuing projects, secondary things you want to learn will start falling by the wayside. I still haven't found the time to learn piano.

- The world really is full of interesting problems to fix. Here's some advice on spotting them: http://www.jdpressman.com/2017/08/28/the-favored-mindset.htm...

- Figure out what you really want as early as possible, and I don't mean "from your career" or whatever. I mean what you want period. Lots of people say they 'just want to be happy' because that's a default trope, but if you really just want to be happy your best bet is to become a Buddhist monk. You have to think beyond such things if you're really going to find a coherent self identity.

Some stuff I did do four years ago and would be hurting if I hadn't:

- Figure out how to reliably have a great conversation with people. Carnegie's famous How To Win Friends And Influence People will get you most of the way there. This is a skill you'll use every day of your life just about, and it'll really help you get towards some of that living the parent insists is vital.

- Start trying to meet people outside of your traditional high school friend group. Unless your high school is truly elite, whoever your friends are there are probably kind of stunted and ineffectual compared to the people you can meet out in the 'real world'. Pay some mind towards how much others can help you, but people who base their entire social life around that I'd think live sad cynical lives.

- Don't get lazy, keep pushing the limits of what you're capable of. In order to learn you always need to be just a little bit outside your comfort zone. If you always stay within what you know you're capable of you won't learn.

Re: Ask HN: What is the best way to spend my time as a 17-year-old who can code?

#136
The beauty of being young is that you can actually do everything the commenters said barring external limitations such as money.

I lean towards comments suggesting to think about college and continue honing programming skills.

When you are young, you haven’t seen what’s out there yet. College is the stepping stone towards that. If you don’t know what’s out there, how can you know how to build something that’s useful?

Also, practicing programming doesn’t have to be boring. In my teen:

* I wrote fortune telling CLI app to impress girls.

* Hacked infinite money on my SimCity and Dune 2 save games using hexadecimal editor.

* Pranking a friend by asking him to download an agent that control his cd rom tray (for haloween purpose)

* Wrote a bunch of excel functions for soccer gambling.

So I guess, long story short, life should be fun, but that doesn’t stop you from being a kick ass in programming.

Don’t worry too much about CV or portfolio. If you are good, you will have plenty of time doing that already in college.

Re: Ask HN: What is the best way to spend my time as a 17-year-old who can code?

#137

1) Get into fitness and nutrition, to maintain a high energy level as your metabolism slows down. Also don't smoke. 2) Learn another language 3) The normal pipeline is HS-> College -> Entry level corporate job -> change jobs -> slightly better corporate job -> change job -> ... -> senior programmer in a corporate setting.... I'm at the end of this pipeline, and it pays the bills but its not that great... How to get o…

> The normal pipeline is HS-> College -> Entry level corporate job -> change jobs -> slightly better corporate job -> change job -> ... -> senior programmer in a corporate setting....I'm at the end of this pipeline, and it pays the bills but it's not that great...

This, in a nutshell is the problem with investing your youth in coding. There is more to life than optimizing your potential as a producer so you can optimize your potential as a consumer. I, too, am at the end of this pipeline. There are worse places, but explore your options first.

If you want quality life advice, look elsewhere. More generally, don't look for it in any narrow community where most people are still young. Being young doesn't preclude wisdom but being young and narrowly focused doesn't improve your odds of finding it.

If I were starting over I would spend more time understanding my goals and values, work harder at building deeper social bonds, and invest more in caring for my mental and physical health. I think this would have made me a better person, a better parent, and even a better employee.

Re: Ask HN: What is the best way to spend my time as a 17-year-old who can code?

#138

At 17 I wasn't a good listener. I could listen to role models or people I deemed "above me" but not not else. If you become a good listener, who can understand people's problems, their fears, motivations, strengths, feelings, and emotions, you'll be years above and permanently above many of your peers. But it takes serious effort. Do not undervalue skill sets outside of coding. We have hundreds of universities pumpin…

This is the one. If you can code then focus on communication, empathy and organizing ideas. More generally, try to understand product and the process around it. Take an idea, even one that's contrived and try to run through a SWOT (as lame as that sounds, the exercise makes you think). Don't get caught up trying to perfect your syntax - learn how to write (sometimes shitty) code to solve real problems.

Further, you'll rarely solve big problem on your own. Doing the above will prep you for working in a high functioning team. Strive to put yourself in a position to work with the best. From there life will take you to the right place.

Re: Ask HN: What is the best way to spend my time as a 17-year-old who can code?

#139
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So if it is not your cup of tea, then don’t be afraid to be true to yourself. If living well for you means spending time in your basement in front of your monitor, reading books, barely interacting with other people, then just do that. Even then, for 90% of the people there far more obligations >30 (partner, kids, mortgage, work, etc.). When you are young you are much more agile, enjoying that is good advice, or you…

> you might be 40 and missing the life that you never had I've never understood this. How can you miss something you never had? Is it that people regret not doing something? Everybody has regrets, but I'd regret losing everything I have now more than I'll ever regret not having done something in my childhood.

You have an imagination right? It's actually worse because your regretting not doing a thing that is only in your imagination which is impossible to live up to. So you're sad because you didn't do x, let's say snoboarding bit since you haven't done it you are regretting imagination not regretting not doing more of something you understand well.
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