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Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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Post by watwut »

ashark wrote: post #75
watwut wrote: post #42

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I have seen baby driver, it was ok except large plot holes (especially around his girlfriend and boss behavior which made little sense to me by the end of movie). Dunkirk does not seem my thing, but I will check Logan, thanks.

The last few years have been a kind of mini-golden-age for low- to mid-budget horror, if that's your thing, and especially if you like your horror a little off-kilter. It Follows, The Babadook, The Conjuring (kind of a low-key superhero movie blended with very not-scary horror, in many ways, but well acted, plotted, paced, and put together), Train to Busan, You're Next, The Void. The new Evil Dead. Some others I'm su…

Thanks! Bookmarking this, this sounds like it might be my thing.

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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Post by izacus »

ericd wrote: post #163
philwelch wrote: post #150

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Have you seen the John Wick movies?

I have. Definitely better than the superhero flicks that plague theaters, but he's still got that invulnerable mechanical efficiency that gets a bit old after he's plowed through the 50th person in a 10 minute shootout. I'm talking more like Die Hard, Alien, Air Force One, or even First Blood, where the main character is a mostly regular person with some combat training, is in a situation where they're believably scr…

Yeah, to be honest the rare action movie that really made me invested into the action lately was The Raid (2011), which was shot in a way that made the action sequences look significantly more realistic and you didn't get the feeling that anyone has plot armor in it.

(It also got a huge amount of awards for it.)

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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Post by jokoon »

Personally I just go to wikipedia, jump to the "reception" part, and see what rotten tomatoes or metacritic tells about it.

People tell me I should not trust critics, but I really don't want to waste 2 hours of my time. Generally critics are accurate, and RT offers an audience rating too to give some contrast.

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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Post by izacus »

MBCook wrote: post #94
criddell wrote: post #68

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> TV is much better, with lots more variety That's pretty interesting. TV used to be the home for schlock and quality story telling was mostly done by movies. These days, if you want to tell a substantial story with depth, you do it on television. Movies are to television as short stores are to novels.

Yeah, it’s flipped. Part of that is more control when working for TV, part of it is the ability to tell a story in more than 120m. Let’s you explore much deeper things or have way more character development.

And also lower budget - due to "cheap" actors, even the most high-budget TV shows don't come close to a single Hollywood blockbuster which makes them a significantly less risky investment. Hence you see more innovation and tryouts - similar to indie/AA gaming market vs. AAA gaming blockbusters.

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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Post by edoloughlin »

bachaco wrote: post #185

Anyone else thinks this is just a Rotten Tomatoes publicity campaign?

Don't think so, reading to the end:

But even a cursory look at recent Rotten Tomato ratings shows a tenuous relationship between the site’s ratings and actual box office. It has assigned a rotten rating to movies that have done well (The Hitmans’ Bodyguard, The Emoji Movie), and it affixes an overwhelmingly positive rating to a film that fared poorly (Logan Lucky).

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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Post by Boothroid »

mschuster91 wrote: post #180
Boothroid wrote: post #138

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You forgot kick ass female lead, implausibly beating up men twice her size using minimal muscle mass :|

You don't need muscle mass. All you need to understand as a smaller person is how to use two things to your advantage: 1) your own low mass, which makes you by definition more agile than your opponent 2) the kinetic energy of your opponent. It takes training, yes, but given that I've seen a 1.65m pixie cop bring down a 2m Russian hulk in a bar fight, alone, in 15 seconds, many movie scenes are not that unrealistic.

The exception that proves the rule. They often show tiny women winning in tests of strength! It's ludicrous and insulting to the audience, almost as much as the wisecracking black guy stereotype. When was the last time you saw a black guy in a film that wasn't all tough/street etc?

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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Post by ben-schaaf »

izacus wrote: post #182
ericd wrote: post #163

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I have. Definitely better than the superhero flicks that plague theaters, but he's still got that invulnerable mechanical efficiency that gets a bit old after he's plowed through the 50th person in a 10 minute shootout. I'm talking more like Die Hard, Alien, Air Force One, or even First Blood, where the main character is a mostly regular person with some combat training, is in a situation where they're believably scr…

Yeah, to be honest the rare action movie that really made me invested into the action lately was The Raid (2011), which was shot in a way that made the action sequences look significantly more realistic and you didn't get the feeling that anyone has plot armor in it. (It also got a huge amount of awards for it.)

I similarly enjoyed that movie. It skimps a lot on the plot to provide the best action I've ever seen. The meat of the movie all takes place in one building and if you don't count the small pauses, is basically one giant action scene.

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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Post by grogenaut »

always_good wrote: post #141
platz wrote: post #110

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Use metacritic

Critics in general are bad signals. It's like how HN and /r/programming users brag by hating on things that are popular and loving the esoteric such that they peacock to the other neckbeards about how refined their tastes are. Ugh, DAE hate Javascript? I prefer IMDB user ratings and Metacritic's user ratings, basically the opinions of the unwashed masses who can at least tell you if a movie is actually enjoyable.

In general the trick with critics is to find those that you agree with on certain genres. No critic is really going to agree with you on everything. So find some that align with you on say action movies and some on dramas and interpolate a score. Eventually you learn their preferences and you can get a very good read on if you'll like a movie with just one or 2 critic reviews. You'll learn that some are into filming or score or other things more than you and you can ignore that.

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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Post by Sir_Substance »

makemonisonline wrote: post #161
Zircom wrote: post #126

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>Or bring snacks from home (or a convienence store which is a bargain compared to a theatre) Movie theaters almost universally do not allow outside food or drinks, so that isn't really an option. But these days if I ever go to a movie I pretty much exclusively go to a dine-in theater(alamo drafthouse, studio move grill, etc) because at least there I'm getting decent food instead of a paying $20 for tub of popcorn and…

Just break the rules. I have gone to the movies with food and beer in my back pack over one hundred times and never been searched, or caught in the theatre.

If I'm to just break the rules in order to improve the viewing experience, why should I not go the whole way and just torrent the latest movies to watch at home?
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