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Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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Examples?

Logan Lucky looked really good, vanished from theaters before I could see it. Baby Driver was very good. Dunkirk. And those are just the big productions.

I have seen baby driver, it was ok except large plot holes (especially around his girlfriend and boss behavior which made little sense to me by the end of movie). Dunkirk does not seem my thing, but I will check Logan, thanks.

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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A flip side to this... is Rotten Tomatoes boosting movies that would otherwise be ignored, by virtue of excellent ratings? I'm thinking specifically of Hidden Figures here. Who would ever have thought that we'd see a Star Wars movie (Rogue One) booted out of the #1 spot by a movie about black women doing math? (This is in no way a criticism of either movie, btw. I loved both of them and consider them high-water marks…

I could totally believe that. A studio like A24 might not be financially viable if they weren't able to put out a few highly rated movies every year.

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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The day the movie industry allows me to legally stream a "just released movie" straight to my 4k tv (or my phone), that day, they will have the same or more revenue as before. Until that happen, i would definitely check the ratings/reviews before spending solid amount of money and time on "going" to the cinema.

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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Eh ? Just stop buying tickets for those movies then.

"I am a movie critic by trade, and until recently, I got paid to tell you people which movies merely stink and which ones you shouldn’t screen near an open flame. Well, I’m putting the burden of lousy movies back on you. It’s very simple: if you stop going to bad movies, they’ll stop making bad movies. If the movie used to be a TV show, just don’t go. After Roman numeral II, give it a rest. If it's a remake of a clas…

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Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eh ? Just stop buying tickets for those movies then.

"I am a movie critic by trade, and until recently, I got paid to tell you people which movies merely stink and which ones you shouldn’t screen near an open flame. Well, I’m putting the burden of lousy movies back on you. It’s very simple: if you stop going to bad movies, they’ll stop making bad movies. If the movie used to be a TV show, just don’t go. After Roman numeral II, give it a rest. If it's a remake of a clas…

Meh, the thing is I don't want movies about normal people. I prefer stunts, explosions, superheros, etc.

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

#47

The day the movie industry allows me to legally stream a "just released movie" straight to my 4k tv (or my phone), that day, they will have the same or more revenue as before. Until that happen, i would definitely check the ratings/reviews before spending solid amount of money and time on "going" to the cinema.

I have a nice television, but I still prefer going to a good theater to see movies.

There are a few theater operators that have figured out that just showing the movie and selling expensive popcorn isn't good enough. They have to have comfortable seats, decent food, great drinks, rules against talking and using phones, and reserved seating. When the experience is good, I'll pay to see movies I already know well. For example, I just went to see the original Blade Runner two weekends ago.

It's a little like how I can watch baseball on TV, but every year I still love to go to the ballpark to watch live. There's more to it than just the thing you are ostensibly there to see.

So I agree with you. They should have same day streaming. For people that like going to the cinema, they will still go.

I also think that on your way out the theater, they should have DVDs and BluRays of the movie you just saw for sale.

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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Movies lately:

* Generic Super-Hero Movie A.

* Generic Super-Hero Movie B. Different title from A, yet actually identical plot and sometimes actors.

* A new CG cartoon "for the whole family". They haven't had an original idea since Wall-E.

* Generic block-buster action movie with robots and/or ninjas or ninja-robots, explosions, Chevrolet placement ads, and at least 2 pairs of extremely shapely female breasts.

* Generic ultra-patriotic military-hero-worship action flick where rugged, muscly bearded Alpha-Macho super-bros kill brown people, usually has the word "American" in the title, and a scene-that-lasts-too-long where Rick tearfully tells Sam to tell his wife he loves her as his guts slowly (all too slowly) fall out of his torn-up torso.

* Generic coming-of-age and beating-all-odds story about a lovable but bullied lonely/introverted/gay/black/Muslim kid from the streets/ghetto/Pakistan who overcomes all odds to be his neighborhood's/high-school's/country's star juggler/drummer/dancer/stripper/singer/refugee-turned-Nobel-laureate and gets the girl/boy at the end.

* A documentary telling me I'm fat, living in a banana republic Orwellian surveillance police-state dystopia with horrible health-care and a deteriorating environment.

* Girl-Squad/Bro-team Buddy Comedy with a bunch of 45-year-olds acting like rich, spoiled, immature 18-year-olds at friend X's wedding. Hilarity ensues.

Basically, I'm either being bored out of my mind for the whole duration, or sad/frustrated that this world is so horrible/unjust, or watching a 120-minute commercial for Pepsi/Chevrolet/Sex, or being actively recruited for the Marines.

TV is much better, with lots more variety.

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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These type of articles never explore the potential results of the Rotten Tomatoes voting system. As the article mentions the RT rating is not a measure of how good a movie is, it is a measure of the percentage of people who viewed the movie positively. A 100% doesn't mean a movie is perfect or even particularly good, it means no one thought it was bad.

A movie designed to do well on a RT score needs to please everyone. The end result is something that tries to be bland, uninteresting, and inoffensive. As an avid movie goer, that is a horrible result. I would much rather see a movie that takes risks and fails than something with little ambition outside turning a profit.

If you ask people why they don't go to the movies more they will often cite the idea that there is nothing new they haven't seen before (besides the complaints you hear about prices). That is another way of phrasing this exact problem. It is becoming more and more risky to innovate and try something new. You end up with lots of sequels, remakes, and other cookie cutter projects. It is safer to invest in the next mediocre superhero movie that most people will be fine with than an innovative middle budget drama that might have a harder time finding an audience. That is what is hurting the movie industry.

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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post #23

A flip side to this... is Rotten Tomatoes boosting movies that would otherwise be ignored, by virtue of excellent ratings? I'm thinking specifically of Hidden Figures here. Who would ever have thought that we'd see a Star Wars movie (Rogue One) booted out of the #1 spot by a movie about black women doing math? (This is in no way a criticism of either movie, btw. I loved both of them and consider them high-water marks…

Maybe. I only go see movies in the theater if the Rotten Tomatoes score is 90+ (otherwise I just wait for redbox). That is the reason why I went to see Hidden Figures. If it had been sub-90 I wouldn't have seen it in the theater and, frankly, by the time it got to Redbox I probably would have passed it right over (which would have been a shame since it was a great movie).
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