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How I got to 200 productive hours a month

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Re: How I got to 200 productive hours a month

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I read this as a single article distillation of the principles in Deep Work by Cal Newport, very well done. It's been a while since I read Pragmatic Thinking and Learning by Andy Hunt, but the article feels familiar with that, as well (I recall a helpful section on meditation). The Accidental Creative by Todd Henry is another great resource.

Newport's sources showed that most people are capable of about four hours of deep work per day. If you hit that level, add in 2-3 hours of shallower tasks, and do it every day, you reach 200 "productive hours" in a month. I'm not sure how many people are willing or able to carve out two 3-hour blocks more than five days a week, but it seems highly worthwhile to step back once a month or quarter, with one's s.o. or family, if present, and think about what is possible and what makes sense in support of mutual goals. From there, in light of the goals and constraints, the article's breakdown for cultivating the environment, body, and mind are clarifying. Ok, I'm sitting down with my wife and doing this this weekend.

The gist of the article is what I try to practice, and I find the strategy refresher motivating. I have had good success with removing push notifications, removing the phone from the workspace, sleeping at the same time, regular breaks to stay limber, targeted muscle work (rowing during winter until it gets too boring, the Roam Strong workout plan currently), and reducing junk calories intake. I've had less success building deep work persistence by making streaks and subdividing tasks. I think it's time to force the break to a separate device for leisure.

How much is it worth spending on a CO2 monitor? As a remote worker, I'm in the same air space almost all day every day, so if there is a low grade problem, I'm cooked.

Re: How I got to 200 productive hours a month

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post #101

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From the article it looks like he works 7 days a week, in two 3hr+ sessions. Not so punishing perhaps in terms purely of hours, but .. really? Not even one day off a week? In 2017? > It seems I value working less than other people I don't know anyone who works 7 days a week.

I should rephrase that to "some people"! And likewise, neither do I. I'd be interested to read a follow up blog post titled: "How I got down from 200 productive hours a month to something a bit more reasonable for sanity and health's sake".

You can set your goal lower and still use all the described methods.

Re: How I got to 200 productive hours a month

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post #117

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Did the copy change? It says "our automatic time tracker" and it is also on the same domain. It's an excellent tool. I have only tried the free trial though. $40 feels a bit high. $25 or below would have been an instant buy. I think he will also get better conversions if the free trial is 30 days instead of 10

Thank you. We set this price because it's not a subscription and you don't need to pay for upgrades. It's not a lucrative pricing model compared to $70-150/yr competitors and going lower in a niche market would be too uncomfortable.

I totally understand. Btw I didn't know that upgrades for free. If it's on the website, then I missed it. That makes it good value.

Re: How I got to 200 productive hours a month

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Not really. Leaving a phone at home and taking a notebook or book with you while sitting outside is not like "stop staying awake". It will, in fact, get you off the Internet and is unlikely to result in withdrawal symptoms for most people. Unlike "stop staying awake" which is not actionable. A book might not be a good suggestion for everyone, and finding the right "off internet thinking environment" is not easy for s…

> Unlike "stop staying awake" which is not actionable. That's the problem: you think "stop staying awake" is not actionable, while "leave your phone at home" is actionable for a person with ADHD. Again, this is not different than saying "just be happy" to a depressed person. To that person, in that moment, "stop wasting time on the internet" is not actionable just as much, otherwise it would not be a problem in the f…

Going with your examples, I think "leave your phone at home" is more actionable than "stop wasting time on the internet", and both are vastly more actionable than "stop staying awake" and "just be happy".

Re: How I got to 200 productive hours a month

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post #109

I don't believe anybody is really productive 200 hours in a month. Focus on fewer things if you feel you need to work 50 hours a week, every week.

I'd like to focus on fewer things but I still feel that 50hrs are ok. We are awake about 16 hours each day. If less than 7 are spent working, there are still 9 hours each day for other stuff.

OK, but plenty of that is spent on chores, washing, getting dressed, transportation, and other drudgery, so it's not as much time as it sounds like.

Re: How I got to 200 productive hours a month

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> Two years ago I could spend a week not working because I was avoiding some task. This is a great article and there’s plenty to talk about in organizational systems, even if this seems to be subtly pitching his own products in places. But if anyone reading this identifies with this sort of chronic procrastination, consider seeking psychiatric help. This is a giant red flag for adult ADHD, which is a serious and ofte…

Mental health professional here (well, currently on internship). "Giant red flag" is a bit of an overstatement in this particular situation. It is very common for people without significant attention problems otherwise to have major difficulty self-motivating and structuring when working independently. Many of my depressed and anxious clients became so by getting further and further behind, because there was no structure or accountability imposed on them and they simply did not know how to do it themselves. Most of them did not meet criteria for ADHD and improved quickly with scheduling, goal-setting and accountability systems.

That's not to say that procrastination is not a symptom of ADHD. It is. But the modern world is built to distract even the normal, and most people are capable of developing bad habits.

Also, the actual ADHD diagnostic procedure is very involved (3-5 hours of testing that can cost upwards of 2k). A lot of diagnoses aren't actual diagnoses, and no one is qualified to make a Dx from a brief verbal assessment.

So long as we keep those cautions in mind, I agree that if a person thinks they might have ADHD, by all means look into the symptoms, do a little research and consider getting tested.

Re: How I got to 200 productive hours a month

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post #77

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It also seems that he works at least partially on his own stuff. For me personally, there is a big difference between working on something for someone, and working on my own ideas. The latter tires me much less.

This is quite true. I guess I don't count the hours I work on my own projects and learning.

I think this may be actually the source of much confusion in discussions of how much "work" is good.

Re: How I got to 200 productive hours a month

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post #118

> Caution: The mentioned amount of hours is not advisable for people working on someone else's business for illusory stock options, with no payment for overtime. There's also no point in going beyond this number because working over 50 hours a week actually decreases productivity. Life should come first in the "work-life balance." Great disclaimer in the article. The only problem is that many employers will be quite…

A well run company will always have more work for each employee than is possible for them to complete. This is because the employee is then forced to prioritise their work themselves and only focus on the pieces of work that align with their incentives. Which should align with the company incentivies.

If this was not the case, then the organization would need to employ additional staff to plan work, in order to maximise efficiency. Which would be waste.

So if you're working for someone else, prioritize and cut what you don't have time for. You'll be surprised what you can cut.

Re: How I got to 200 productive hours a month

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post #11

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Well actually I think people should first try getting off social media - and not just that - getting off Internet.

I think this is why we need to get back to using books for our resources, looking on the internet is too distracting.

The books still exist. I still use books as a crash course or refresher from time to time. And I've gotten back into reading more on my Kindle or phone while walking my dog in the mornings.

Re: How I got to 200 productive hours a month

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I miss the times developers would optimize their lives without all the online rants and the sensitive encouraging, nodding and enabling of said behavior. That said, don't you have banks which automatically pay your bills (electricity/gas/water)? Which country are you from?

My bank doesn't know how much my bill is going to be every month, so I have to put the amount in. Fortunately, I use simple.com and paying a bill with their mobile app takes a couple of seconds (once I have entered the companies info). Some companies have decent recurring billing via ACH, and I use that on most of my credit cards (I still check the statements each month), but my electric, water, sewer, and gas compan…

You don't have direct debits for this sort of thing ie bill is paid automatically?
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