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Re: Spanish police raid .Cat domain name registry offices

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Post by farresito »

notspanishflu wrote: post #209
farresito wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't downvoted a SINGLE comment, and even if I wanted I wouldn't be able because I don't have enough points. I never downvote, and of course I wouldn't downvote because someone has different views than me. Stop with the bullshit. Go to reddit if that's what you are looking for.

"I haven't downvoted a SINGLE comment, and even if I wanted I wouldn't be able because I don't have enough points" Say the guy with 682 points.

https://snag.gy/MirFLw.jpg

I can't downvote. If it's not because of the points, it's because of something else.

Re: Spanish police raid .Cat domain name registry offices

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Post by justin66 »

notspanishflu wrote: post #205
justin66 wrote: post #185

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You do realize that the subject matter of the article this thread is about involves free speech, right? Spanish authorities asked the registry to block domain names that were being used to spread information about an upcoming referendum for independence. I can understand why the opposition would be pretty pissed off about that infringement on their free speech rights.

That's illegal propaganda, not free-speech.

It might or might not be of interest, but there's a pretty profound difference between your attitude and the attitude of an American, and the approach of American constitutional law. Political speech, which is broadly defined, is the most highly protected sort of speech we have under our constitution.

But maybe you were joking or something. Saying "Everybody can speak about the referendum in Spain" and then immediately contradicting yourself is ironic.

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Post by bassman9000 »

notspanishflu wrote: post #204
bassman9000 wrote: post #195

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You won't get many responses because the PC thing is to side with Catalonia, but this is the whole story: a money grab scheme. It's been going on for ages. With B- debt rating, collapsing health care system, and massive public spending on things like the one you mention, they simply need money. Plan post-independence is to seize all public assets belonging to the Spanish state (funds, buildings, public companies, ...…

The 'original sin' is the political over-representation of the nationalist parties because both PSOE and PP have needed their support for the Spanish government most of the time. In exchange of too much concessions, of course.

spot on. This is a national crisis, and everyone had their part on it

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Post by bassman9000 »

monodeldiablo wrote: post #152
tobltobs wrote: post #93

Under the assumption that for the next 10-20 years Catalonia wouldn't be allowed to join the EU, could someone of the pro separate group explain how a independent state of Catalonia is supposed to survive?

Probably just fine? Slovenia seemed to manage alright, and their economy is positively tiny.

Slovenia doesn't have the public spending Catalonia has.

Re: Spanish police raid .Cat domain name registry offices

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Post by bassman9000 »

monodeldiablo wrote: post #153
notspanishflu wrote: post #148

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Sure. Just a coincidence that kind of speech 'we just want to vote', 'I'm going to say no but want to vote in this illegal referendum', I only hear it from secessionists.

There's no better way to change his vote to a definite "yes" than by refusing to allow him to voice his opinion. If Madrid listened half as well as it sneered, I suspect they'd have better relations with all their immediate neighbors.

Is it also sneering when money pours from central state?

https://www.invertia.com/es/-/-que-autonomias-deben-mas-dine...

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Post by pvaldes »

unethical_ban wrote: post #95
rbanffy wrote: post #58

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Democracy requires the rule of law. The law says the vote should not take place, therefore either the vote doesn't take place or the law (the constitution, in this case) is changed. Politics is the art of the possible. Right now, this is not possible and pushing for it is not constructive.

If a supposedly democratic nation banned free speech, then I would proudly break the law. If a sufficient number of people in a geopolitical area wish to govern themselves, broadly, it should be seriously considered by any ethical government.

Like in the case of the Islamic State, for example? Hemmm...not.

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Post by Oletros »

kgwgk wrote: post #194
monodeldiablo wrote: post #157

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Purely out of curiosity: Who appoints those judges?

The High Court of Justice of Catalonia, if I’m not mistaken.

no, just a third are nominated by the Comunity

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribunal_Superior_de_Justicia_...

Re: Spanish police raid .Cat domain name registry offices

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Post by Oletros »

notspanishflu wrote: post #163
oriol16 wrote: post #149

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http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2013/04/26/andalucia/136697569... find the ratios and then the ratios of population. Thank you.

Number of cases don't say anything. It's better to look at the amount of money. You can have 500 politicians stealing 1 million euros each, and 5 politicians stealing 1 billion each.

So, if for 2 comunities of 1 million people with 300 politicians each, if in one comunity 1 politician steals 1.000 millions is more corrupt than one where 300 politicians steal 3 millions each?

Curious way of counting corruption

And, by the way, I think Catalonia is exactly as corrupt as the rest of the Spain, it is not a problem of the comunity, is a problem of the whole society which rewards that any people steal taxes or don't pay VAT

CiU, PP and PSOE are equal regarding corruption.

Re: Spanish police raid .Cat domain name registry offices

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Post by Oletros »

notspanishflu wrote: post #204
bassman9000 wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You won't get many responses because the PC thing is to side with Catalonia, but this is the whole story: a money grab scheme. It's been going on for ages. With B- debt rating, collapsing health care system, and massive public spending on things like the one you mention, they simply need money. Plan post-independence is to seize all public assets belonging to the Spanish state (funds, buildings, public companies, ...…

The 'original sin' is the political over-representation of the nationalist parties because both PSOE and PP have needed their support for the Spanish government most of the time. In exchange of too much concessions, of course.

> The 'original sin' is the political over-representation of the nationalist parties

Or you don't know about Spanish election system or you'r just lying. I think is the former.

There is no over-representation of nationalist parties, there is a over-representation of both majority parties, PP and PSOE.

Almost all the provinces have 3 diputates and the third pary doesn't have any representation.

Re: Spanish police raid .Cat domain name registry offices

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Post by pvaldes »

Oletros wrote: post #192
pvaldes wrote: post #188

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Spain is for all the spaniards. All have the same basic rights as the right to move freely inside the entire country, to work and live when they want inside its frontiers and to decide together about the destiny of their country. With logical exceptions (like requiring granted access to private areas); this super-basic concept is in use in all free and democratic countries of the world. New York people can't wake up…

> Spain is for all the spaniards. All have the same basic rights as the right to move freely inside the entire country, to work and live when they want inside its frontiers and to decide together about the destiny of their country. With logical exceptions (like requiring granted access to private areas); this super-basic concept is in use in all free and democratic countries of the world. Think that has nothing to do…

As said before, this 70% of the local population would represent, lets say, a mere 10% of the total population.

So if one of each ten people voted for "yes to A", and the other nine people voted for "no to A". What should happen in a democratic system?.

Well, the idea here is that you has the freedom to choose among two nice options: "yes to A" and "repeat the process until yes to A is achieved" or "start negociations to circumnavigate what people really wanted". But this is not a dictatorship, of course; we are a democratic modern society unlike the spaniards, those savages.

And talking about semi-naked savages, this reminds me that extra-nice 2008 campaign launched by Catalonian independentists: "support a spanish child with more money from Catalonia". It seems that this is how they see the other spaniards. Nice image. It isn't?.

http://img.rtve.es/imagenes/apadrina-nino-extremeno/12174362...

Because poor children is a perfectly fine theme to make some good laughs (They are poor, ha-haa!).

To finish, and taking in mind several harassments and repeated BS like this in the last decade, I think that a lot of people in Spain would vote enthusiastically about sending this people out of Spain, even better, why not to Mars?, to build the New Castelldefells and live their futuristic utopia happy forever in the red planet.

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