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Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening

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Trump is kind of paving the way for this type of corporativism, no?

No.

Are you saying you disagree with the notion that it SHOULD be normalized, or are you disagreeing with the fact that he is doing it?

Re: Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening

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Both Hil and Zuck are not genuine. That's not going to resonate, unless in the next 3 years we swing to the opposite end from Trump's uncesnsored raw bullshit and go full American Psycho Plasticity

Well, they're genuine in one way: they're both classic, technocratic neoliberals. Trump v. Zuck would be a disaster for one of the vain billionaires, and probably not the old one. I think this nails the Clinton-ish technocrat world-view: https://thebaffler.com/blessed-and-brightest/what-happened

Fantastic article!

Re: Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening

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Zuckerberg has done all these things within a relatively short period of time: * Says he’s no longer an atheist, "questioned" religious matters, he broke through his skepticism and now believes religion to be “very important.” * Restructuring of Facebook stock trough the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative. In the SEC filing it says that he can take a leave of absence from Facebook and still retain voting control of the compa…

> Restructuring of Facebook stock trough the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative. In the SEC filing it says that he can take a leave of absence from Facebook and still retain voting control of the company if he goes to work for the government. It can't possibly be kosher for him to be President with this arrangement, can it? If Carter had to divest his peanut farm, why would we let a President retain a massive interest in the…

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening

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Paul Graham claimed in 2004 that the winning candidate each presidential election is actually the candidate with the charisma. http://www.paulgraham.com/charisma.html Since then, Obama beat McCain and Romney and Trump beat Clinton. While it's hard on the ears to hear that Trump is charismatic, the reality is that his social intelligence is off the charts. That's why Scott Adams predicted early that he would win (as d…

I think PG is right. Trump is dynamic and loves attention. He is energized by the audience. When attacked in debate he goes offense. His message has little coherence or intelligent content, but that's not the point. It's not what he says. It's feeling he evokes: hate and anger. He was constant center of attention from left and right. MSNBC might have been supporting Clinton, but they could not avoid flying into the f…

He must've known that he would have been marginalized as a candidate if he didn't continue to project brazenly offensive gaffes into the political arena.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening

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I'm not sure what Zuckerberg can do to combat the virality of Trump, I have some suggestions, which he may not like but he'll need to do:

* Ban Trump from Facebook (co-op with Twitter to ban him there also) * Flood Facebook with ads of people helping others, doing good, committing selfless acts * Forgo the traditional presidential campaign, instead of rallies do an eye-catching Apple-style presentation of people, their situations and solutions. * Stick to an optimistic message no. matter. what. Do not get in the mud. * Do not mention your competitor by name * Every week ask open ended policy/progress questions to an audience on FB (for instance, What would the year 2030 look like? Mars for humanity?) * Every week also feature an interview with an activist, about their mission, how they're changing the world and how the audience can help. * The people who helped build Facebook who are still around must absolutely be involved in the campaign as a testament to Zuckerberg's character and perseverance. * As campaign items distribute and sell posters of great SV pioneers and leaders. Beautiful ones of Jobs, Gates, even social justice and advocacy leaders in the world like Yousafzai, etc. And obviously past leaders like Obama, Hillary, Bill, etc. Don't make it about you, but about visionaries who push the boundaries and change things.

Zuckerberg has a significant chance to not end up like Hillary, but honestly, I would not dare to campaign in 2020; however I would be more than happy to get Zuckerberg across 270 with a campaign the world will remember.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening

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> Restructuring of Facebook stock trough the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative. In the SEC filing it says that he can take a leave of absence from Facebook and still retain voting control of the company if he goes to work for the government. It can't possibly be kosher for him to be President with this arrangement, can it? If Carter had to divest his peanut farm, why would we let a President retain a massive interest in the…

Republicans seem quite content with Trump billing the secret service to stay in his own hotels while protecting him, so I think that's your answer.

IIRC, there is a law/policy that the Secret Service has to pay the going rate for any accommodations or services they consume from businesses (which Trump's properties are).

Re: Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening

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Which is more likely, that Mark is experiencing a genuine, and highly publicized, spiritual awakening, or that he's meticulously crafting his public persona based on unprecedented troves of information about modern society?

I do find his changes suspicious, but he did get married / have a kid which can also bring huge changes

I'm not sure I would consider the further cultivation of his megalomania and messianic complex a huge change.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening

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You couldn't source all these bullet points, could you? I'm not saying that they're not true, I'd just like a bit of confirmation to what you're saying without searching for 20 minutes.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/12... https://techcrunch.com/2017/01/04/connector-in-chief/ https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/08/zuckerberg-hires-cli... http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/01/10/chan-zuckerberg-initia... http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/02/zuckerberg-hires-fo... https://www.businessinsider.nl/mark-zuckerberg-personal-goal...

Thank you!

Re: Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening

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You couldn't source all these bullet points, could you? I'm not saying that they're not true, I'd just like a bit of confirmation to what you're saying without searching for 20 minutes.

They're all in the article.

Oof. My bad, sorry.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening

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You couldn't source all these bullet points, could you? I'm not saying that they're not true, I'd just like a bit of confirmation to what you're saying without searching for 20 minutes.

They were in the article?

Cheers.
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