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Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

uniban wrote: post #3

Zuckerberg has done all these things within a relatively short period of time: * Says he’s no longer an atheist, "questioned" religious matters, he broke through his skepticism and now believes religion to be “very important.” * Restructuring of Facebook stock trough the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative. In the SEC filing it says that he can take a leave of absence from Facebook and still retain voting control of the compa…

He is into something big.

Agreed, and he'd be a fool if he wasted his position on trying to be the President. He has a real capability to become akin to a modern day emperor if he does it right.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening

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Post by coheeman »

auxym wrote: post #52
hnaccy wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're ignoring that he's short, uncharismatic, robotic, and looks like a dork.

As opposed to current president, who is quite dashing and the smooth speaker.

Say what you will about Trump, but you have to admit he's charismatic...in a bad sense. Republican primaries were all about him being the center of attention with the remarks and banter that caught everyone off-guard.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening

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Post by [deleted] »

zizek23 wrote: post #29
uniban wrote: post #3

Zuckerberg has done all these things within a relatively short period of time: * Says he’s no longer an atheist, "questioned" religious matters, he broke through his skepticism and now believes religion to be “very important.” * Restructuring of Facebook stock trough the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative. In the SEC filing it says that he can take a leave of absence from Facebook and still retain voting control of the compa…

This country worships success. That's the reason Trump won. Zuckerberg is not only ridiculously successful but touches everyone's life everyday and people may feel an intimacy that doesn't exist. Without being judgmental just looking at the dynamics he is going to win.

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening

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Post by creaghpatr »

pjc50 wrote: post #57
0xcde4c3db wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Restructuring of Facebook stock trough the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative. In the SEC filing it says that he can take a leave of absence from Facebook and still retain voting control of the company if he goes to work for the government. It can't possibly be kosher for him to be President with this arrangement, can it? If Carter had to divest his peanut farm, why would we let a President retain a massive interest in the…

Republicans seem quite content with Trump billing the secret service to stay in his own hotels while protecting him, so I think that's your answer.

Yeah and Zuckerberg pays himself every time he uses Facebook, so are we going to make him delete his account?

If he were to win I think he would be pressured to structure some kind of trust that prevents him from leveraging Facebook's political power in conjunction with the government.

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Post by seabta »

epicide wrote: post #45
yannis7 wrote: post #18

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nothing screams "disconnected coastal elite" more than a young hip billionaire who thinks that his 50-state "poverty safari" trip resonates with voters

Other than age and industry, what's different about him and the current US president?

Demeanor. Oh, and the small matter of their political positions.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening

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Post by ms88 »

uniban wrote: post #3

Zuckerberg has done all these things within a relatively short period of time: * Says he’s no longer an atheist, "questioned" religious matters, he broke through his skepticism and now believes religion to be “very important.” * Restructuring of Facebook stock trough the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative. In the SEC filing it says that he can take a leave of absence from Facebook and still retain voting control of the compa…

I would vote for him. I think he and Sheryl Sandberg realized just propping up establishment politicians is not enough.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening

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Post by talmand »

pjc50 wrote: post #57
0xcde4c3db wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Restructuring of Facebook stock trough the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative. In the SEC filing it says that he can take a leave of absence from Facebook and still retain voting control of the company if he goes to work for the government. It can't possibly be kosher for him to be President with this arrangement, can it? If Carter had to divest his peanut farm, why would we let a President retain a massive interest in the…

Republicans seem quite content with Trump billing the secret service to stay in his own hotels while protecting him, so I think that's your answer.

That's actually normal and has been in place for quite some time now.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening

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Post by talmand »

mbrock wrote: post #51
0xcde4c3db wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Restructuring of Facebook stock trough the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative. In the SEC filing it says that he can take a leave of absence from Facebook and still retain voting control of the company if he goes to work for the government. It can't possibly be kosher for him to be President with this arrangement, can it? If Carter had to divest his peanut farm, why would we let a President retain a massive interest in the…

Trump is kind of paving the way for this type of corporativism, no?

No.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening

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Post by jsolson »

Chardok wrote: post #61
0xcde4c3db wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Restructuring of Facebook stock trough the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative. In the SEC filing it says that he can take a leave of absence from Facebook and still retain voting control of the company if he goes to work for the government. It can't possibly be kosher for him to be President with this arrangement, can it? If Carter had to divest his peanut farm, why would we let a President retain a massive interest in the…

That is by far the biggest red flag for his political aspirations. I cannot even fathom the conflicts of interest, the potential to misuse/abuse Facebooks front page rankings, and the massive data and insight he would have access to.

The President and Vice President are exempted from conflict of interest laws. The reason for this is interesting -- the Constitution sets out the requirements for being president, so the concern was that the laws would be challenged as unconstitutional and invalidated entirely if they applied to POTUS.

Of course, at the time presidents were in the habit of divesting themselves of their conflicts.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg's Political Awakening

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Post by te_chris »

moretai wrote: post #47
moretai wrote: post #39

He reminds me of a male Hilary. I think we've been reduced to(maybe we've always been this) just quick reactions for Elections, and my immediate reaction even from the start was I don't like this guy, even before I knew about the "stupid fuckers are trusting me" and sweatgate. He just repulses me, in the same way Hillary physically repulsed me on an evolutionary level. And I think if America is filled with morons lik…

Both Hil and Zuck are not genuine. That's not going to resonate, unless in the next 3 years we swing to the opposite end from Trump's uncesnsored raw bullshit and go full American Psycho Plasticity

Well, they're genuine in one way: they're both classic, technocratic neoliberals. Trump v. Zuck would be a disaster for one of the vain billionaires, and probably not the old one.

I think this nails the Clinton-ish technocrat world-view: https://thebaffler.com/blessed-and-brightest/what-happened

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