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Re: Google Pixelbook Is Google’s New Chromebook

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Post by jordanthoms »

77ko wrote: post #159
sumitgt wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I want to use Kami, but I am worried by the fact that it asks for permission to your entire Google Drive. Why doesn't Kami use the " https://www.googleapis.com/auth/drive.file permission" scope that gives only access to files created or opened with the app?

This. I wish Google Drive had a way to give apps permission to access only one folder. i.e I want Kami to be able to only access the "pdfs" folder in my drive. Right now it seems apps can either access everything or they are restricted to their own private app folder which is hidden somewhere in drive.

Yeah, the permissions system in Google Drive is quite limited - the only to get things to work reliably is to request permissions for everything which is obviously not ideal.

Re: Google Pixelbook Is Google’s New Chromebook

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Post by cardiffspaceman »

yathern wrote: post #47
miguelrochefort wrote: post #6

Who pays $1,199 for a Chromebook?

It is pricey - but that's kinda the point. The value of the Pixel brand is equally about what it supplies the ecosystem with. Having a Chromebook that is high-end with all the new bells and whistles - and very well designed hardware brings attention to Chromebooks as a whole. It signals that Chromebooks aren't just cheap devices for students - but that they can be performance devices as well. Luxury items even. Peopl…

Yes the Corvette's importance to GM isn't the number of Corvettes sold, its the number of prospects who buy Camaros etc.

Re: Google Pixelbook Is Google’s New Chromebook

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Post by crtasm »

chx wrote: post #80
nickjj wrote: post #73

I think I'll stick with my Toshiba Chromebook CB35. - It runs native Linux - Works awesome for every day web development - 1080p IPS display - $350 bucks total If anyone wants to see how to set that up (it requires installing GalliumOS which is a native Linux OS for Chromebooks) and read a full review it's over at https://nickjanetakis.com/blog/transform-a-toshiba-chromeboo... .

Very important observation: this article links to a M.2 2242 SSD with 64-512GB capacity and there seems to be ample stock on Amazon.com. This is important because the second SSD on the ThinkPad T470 and consequently the ThinkPad Anniversary 25 can only be a 2242 one and they are a major PITA to find. While some 2242 drives were broken for a few months it has been fixed a week ago https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad…

Earlier models as well, the t450s for certain. I tried to buy a 2242 in the UK about a year ago and gave up in the end (though amazon may have had stock, I don't shop there).

Re: Google Pixelbook Is Google’s New Chromebook

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Post by fattire »

yohui wrote: post #82
shasheene wrote: post #31

I've been using the Samsung Chromebook Plus (ARM chip) laptop/tablet hybrid the past 4 months and it's one of the best devices I've ever owned. Very cheap and has high build quality (great screen and aluminium body). The 4 years prior I used the first ARM Samsung Series 3 Chromebook (much lower build quality, but it was great before it died). I currently use tablet mode for 2-3 hour session for portrait reading (Wiki…

> 3. Two finger touchpad scroll doesn't work on Android apps for scrolling -- painful as heck when Wikipedia links open in the Android app in laptop mode I think that's a bug with the Wikipedia app. Touchpad scrolling seems to work in most Android apps. The Firefox app also had this bug, but they fixed it.

It's a bug with WebViews on Android apps on Chromebook:

https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=704051

Any Android app that has a WebView (https://developer.android.com/reference/android/webkit/WebVi...) seems to experience this bug. A workaround is to uninstall updates to the WebView package in the Play store, as the original shipping one does work with two-finger touchpad scrolling.

If you star this issue, it may get more attention.

Re: Google Pixelbook Is Google’s New Chromebook

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Post by pasbesoin »

t420mom wrote: post #116
hypersoar wrote: post #99

From my experience with a 2013 Pixel I got from I/O, these machines come with a huge caveat: you can't get them repaired. At all . I cracked the glass over the screen on mine and called Google about getting it fixed, expecting them to tell me that it'd cost $X00 for an out-of-warranty repair. But they wouldn't take it at all. They suggested contacting 3rd-party repair shops, but some research into that nixed the idea…

+1. I'll never buy Google hardware again. 6 weeks ago, my Pixel C tablet bricked itself playing Minecraft: Pocket Edition (my guess is that the heat corrupted some of the flash memory). Google agreed to replace it under warranty, but they didn't manage to address the package correctly (they forgot to include some details, like the street, city, zipcode, and state (according to FedEx)). What followed was 4 weeks of ca…

Nexus 5X bootlooped after 1.3 years of rather gentle use.

Replaced a 2013 Moto X that stopped receiving updates well before the 2 year mark, despite being bought when Google owned Moto and was promising timely and continuing updates.

I don't take anything from Google after Google Docs (now Drive, whatever) seriously. Well yeah, the self-driving cars, maybe... but that's not a released product yet, anyway. Which simply saves me the effort, for now, of considering how Google will flush that tech, if and when.

Re: Google Pixelbook Is Google’s New Chromebook

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Post by isr »

danjoc wrote: post #112

Terrible design; $99 pen with no place to stow it. Apple style price jacking for storage; $1199-128GB, $1399-256GB, $1749-512. I don't see this hardware line going anywhere either. I won't be surprised if the pen requires charging like Crapple. Samsung has better offering with Plus/Pro at less than half the price. Why did Google let the guy who rekt Moto run Pixel and Nexus into the ground? This is terrible.

In the absence of specs, we're all guessing here.

That said, I would (err) guess that the more expensive versions also have more RAM and bigger CPU's.

We'll see when the actual models are trotted out ...

Re: Google Pixelbook Is Google’s New Chromebook

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Post by isr »

acangiano wrote: post #110
sethrin wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Crouton[0] is one option for that, but I would recommend GalliumOS[1] to anyone interested in a Chromebook. My current laptop is an Acer C720, purchased for $110 and running GalliumOS. It's not shiny or new, but it gets the job done, and it's practically cheap enough to be disposable. There are admittedly times when I wish I could justify the cost of a Pixel or an XPS 13, but I can't really get past the idea of being…

> but I would recommend GalliumOS[1] to anyone interested in a Chromebook Just make sure the spacebar is never pressed at boot. That's all it takes to screw up your nice dual boot setup.

If you:

* resize the (unused) root-c partition (use the chrx script to do it for you, if you like)

* mount it somewhere under /mnt/stateful_partition

* use that for your chroots, etc

Then you can safely use chromeos in dev mode, and not worry about the "deadly spacebar at bootup" problem.

Pressing the spacebar takes you out of dev mode, which will involve rewriting the contents of the rootfs partition currently in use. It will NOT repartition the entire drive, so your separate partition will be safe. Just revert back to dev mode, and you'll see its still there.

Or ... put everything on a mini usb stick :)

Re: Google Pixelbook Is Google’s New Chromebook

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Post by isr »

criddell wrote: post #100
bubblethink wrote: post #96

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You're paying a premium for good linux and coreboot support. A macbook isn't that unique, and quite a sink of money since it can't run any other OS too well. It certainly can't run linux, and windows isn't too good either. A good linux laptop that ships with coreboot is rare. You can also run windows on these things generally.

What do you mean a Macbook can't run Linux? macOS is a Unix. As for Windows it works great in either a VM or dual boot. I know people that have bought a Mac because they can (legally) run more software than any other computer.

Well, by the same token ChromeOS is a linux distro.

And in dev mode, you get access to a bash shell, full root access, and a spare vt (so you can run xorg, etc). So you can install anything you like.

Rendering your original complaint moot.

Re: Google Pixelbook Is Google’s New Chromebook

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Post by Markoff »

blacksmith_tb wrote: post #154
Markoff wrote: post #144

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ah common, don't be so harsh on their hardware, it's not like Nexus 5X or Nexus 6P were not really good design...

True, I am using a 6P as I write, but wouldn't some (even most) of the credit for that belong to LG and Huawei respectively?

not sure about LG, but in 6P Huawei just produced it according google design and requirements, they never had problems 6P was plagued with, which can't be said about LG with their own phones bootlooping

Re: Google Pixelbook Is Google’s New Chromebook

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Post by coldtea »

pjmlp wrote: post #148
cat199 wrote: post #135

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> obscure 60s-90s programming languages? care to clarify? Most of the new languages are written on unix-like systems first..

It was directed at me, because I am a big fan of strong typed systems programming languages all the way back to Burroughs B5000, and tend to be a bit vocal about it.

Yep :-)
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