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Google Pixelbook Is Google’s New Chromebook

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Re: Google Pixelbook Is Google’s New Chromebook

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Post by mitja_belak »

mattmanser wrote: post #60
j7ake wrote: post #40

Cool dev machine but for 1200 dollars I want to be able to run Microsoft office when people send me documents without asking them to reformat and also edit and modify images with standard software when necessary. In a collaborative world it is not worth the pain to pay 1200 and not be able to work with people who do not code. Chrome books are acceptable at the 200 dollar price point (I have one that dual boots archli…

This new pricing strategy for the Pixel line seems a very odd strategy. It sounds like the Pixel phone has sold terribly, and I imagine this will too.

Its one step towards high-end line like the iphone is going for. Having 1200 bucks computer makes it ok to have 1600 next year. Same is happening with new pixel phone. They went for the luxury clients copying apple style.

Re: Google Pixelbook Is Google’s New Chromebook

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Post by bupku5 »

yathern wrote: post #47
miguelrochefort wrote: post #6

Who pays $1,199 for a Chromebook?

It is pricey - but that's kinda the point. The value of the Pixel brand is equally about what it supplies the ecosystem with. Having a Chromebook that is high-end with all the new bells and whistles - and very well designed hardware brings attention to Chromebooks as a whole. It signals that Chromebooks aren't just cheap devices for students - but that they can be performance devices as well. Luxury items even. Peopl…

This is a popular and false narrative people are creating to inoculate themselves against the anticipated poor sales of the too-expensive Pixel devices

Are we really supposed to believe that Google is going to all this trouble just to move a few units to key influencers? Come on, this is just Google trying to copy Apple in a ham-fisted way

Google still hasn't figured out that part of the premium for Apple users is being able to walk in to an Apple store in most major metro areas for assistance...meanwhile Google still thinks message boards and third-party repair constitute a premium experience

this Chromebook will flop. there's really nothing interesting about it at all...

Re: Google Pixelbook Is Google’s New Chromebook

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Post by nickjj »

I think I'll stick with my Toshiba Chromebook CB35.

- It runs native Linux

- Works awesome for every day web development

- 1080p IPS display

- $350 bucks total

If anyone wants to see how to set that up (it requires installing GalliumOS which is a native Linux OS for Chromebooks) and read a full review it's over at https://nickjanetakis.com/blog/transform-a-toshiba-chromeboo....

Re: Google Pixelbook Is Google’s New Chromebook

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Post by mattmanser »

refulgentis wrote: post #67
mattmanser wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This new pricing strategy for the Pixel line seems a very odd strategy. It sounds like the Pixel phone has sold terribly, and I imagine this will too.

Pixel sold incredibly well and far beyond expectations, it was sold out for months.

Looking into it a bit more, it does seem to be completely dependant on who you read.

Depending on who you read, the 1-2 million speculated to have sold is good or bad.

Re: Google Pixelbook Is Google’s New Chromebook

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Post by fhood »

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #51

Not as fond of the build quality on this new Pixel. The original Chromebook Pixel and Pixel LS is probably my favorite design of any laptop--the aluminum body was gorgeous, and the rectangular "slab" look that did not taper off was distinctly unique and not Macbook-derivative. The new one looks like it has a glass back (?) similar to the Pixel phone.

I mean, it was definitely a tad macbook derivative.

Re: Google Pixelbook Is Google’s New Chromebook

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Post by donquichotte »

toast0 wrote: post #56
donquichotte wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow, the 2015 Pixel LS still go for >1000$ on ebay! Nice to hear that it's possible to run Linux - I have a budget Acer C720p Chromebook and it's a real nuisance to set it up with Linux. Bodhi Linux is great, but once the internal battery runs out, the device is bricked and has to be reflashed with ChromeOS.

Did you install a new bios? If you're only ever going to run Linux, it's probably better not to run the stock bios in legacy mode. Standard bios booting roms are here https://johnlewis.ie/custom-chromebook-firmware/rom-download... or if you want to futz with UEFI, https://mrchromebox.tech

This is great news, I didn't know there were BIOS updates available for the C720P! I'm not going to use UEFI if it's avoidable.

Re: Google Pixelbook Is Google’s New Chromebook

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Post by pjmlp »

coldtea wrote: post #69
pjmlp wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me it certainly isn't spare change, and given that I was able to buy an Asus laptop with Ubuntu LTS pre-installed with about 300 euros, I don't really see the appeal.

As if the target audience for Chromebooks is seasoned systems developers with a thing for obscure 60s-90s programming languages? I mean, let's get real, obviously it wouldn't appeal to you (doesn't appeal to me either). But at least I can pretend to understand the proposition -- it's about never caring for backups and stuff, and having all your stuff in the Cloud, in a Google curated computing experience. Not about s…

I just happen to think there are better ways to improve the world than buying expensive laptops to run a browser based OS.

Re: Google Pixelbook Is Google’s New Chromebook

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Post by neverminder »

camus2 wrote: post #50

To people tempted by the Pixelbook, why not by a Macbook for that price? instead of getting a machine which OS basically amounts to a browser forcing you into google cloud services? You're basically paying a premium to get data-mined... And MacOS runs Chrome so I don't see the big deal here.

"Linux inventor Linus Torvalds replaced Chrome OS on his Chromebook Pixel with Fedora 18, employing Red Hat engineer David Miller's work. Torvalds had praised the Pixel screen but not the operating system, which he felt was better suited to slower hardware." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromebook_Pixel)

Re: Google Pixelbook Is Google’s New Chromebook

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Post by module0000 »

patwolf wrote: post #4

As someone who has attempted to use the original Chromebook Pixel as a development machine, I'm glad to see they've added more storage options. The original Pixel had 32GB of storage, and this one offers 512GB. For those unfamiliar with ChromeOS, it allows you to run Linux application using Crouton/chroot, so it really has a lot of potential as a Linux dev machine. However, I ultimately ran out of storage space, and…

That jumped out at me too, the (much) larger storage options sound great. In my chroot I always have to be very conservative about space, even on a 64GB pixel. Glad that will be a thing of the past with the new sizes.

Re: Google Pixelbook Is Google’s New Chromebook

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Post by chx »

nickjj wrote: post #73

I think I'll stick with my Toshiba Chromebook CB35. - It runs native Linux - Works awesome for every day web development - 1080p IPS display - $350 bucks total If anyone wants to see how to set that up (it requires installing GalliumOS which is a native Linux OS for Chromebooks) and read a full review it's over at https://nickjanetakis.com/blog/transform-a-toshiba-chromeboo... .

Very important observation: this article links to a M.2 2242 SSD with 64-512GB capacity and there seems to be ample stock on Amazon.com. This is important because the second SSD on the ThinkPad T470 and consequently the ThinkPad Anniversary 25 can only be a 2242 one and they are a major PITA to find. While some 2242 drives were broken for a few months it has been fixed a week ago https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-T400-T500-and-newer-T/... on the T470 so I fully expect the TA25 to come with the fix. Because what is missing from the Lenovo forum thread is that Transcend 512GB is the only one actually available at such a capacity and physical size.

And, I am guessing, everyone will be getting the only laptop with modern specs and a usable keyboard, right :) ?

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