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Re: GraphQL Patent Infringement Issues

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Post by perpetualcrayon »

ungzd wrote: post #31
perpetualcrayon wrote: post #21

My take on all this is Facebook's legal team seems to be sending a message to the open source community that they should come for the ideas, but wait for a truly open source alternative to come out before using those ideas in their own products.

But if you are using ideas from their software, you are infringing patents too.

I'm obviously not condoning patent infringement. The idea is to learn from useful ideas and implement a non-infringing equivalent as an open source project. You can't patent "math", or "computer science", or ideas comparably broad.

Re: GraphQL Patent Infringement Issues

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Post by perpetualcrayon »

Lazare wrote: post #41
perpetualcrayon wrote: post #21

My take on all this is Facebook's legal team seems to be sending a message to the open source community that they should come for the ideas, but wait for a truly open source alternative to come out before using those ideas in their own products.

That doesn't work for patents...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15292834

Re: GraphQL Patent Infringement Issues

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Post by watty »

bcarroll22 wrote: post #15

Serious question. React has been around for a while. Companies like Airbnb and Wix, for example, have been using React for a while. If Facebook were going to leverage this the way people are scared of, wouldn’t there be some example of them using it the way people are scared of? You know, on a company doing something it’s proven that they could make major money on? It’s not like this is a new provision, it’s been aro…

It's a real threat, just blown way out of proportion. The second Facebook leverages this patent clause on ANY company, React is dead and everyone will migrate to Preact / VueJS, etc.

This means that the React patent card is a one-time play with HUGE repercussions. Facebook isn't going to target your little company or startup and worrying about it IMO is foolish.

Re: GraphQL Patent Infringement Issues

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Post by CuriousCosmic »

yomly wrote: post #59
yasserkaddour wrote: post #51

Gitlab put on hold their GraphQL implementation due to the patent. Gitlab Senior Director of Legal Affairs said: "If we were to allow this license, it could lead to potential future conflicts with software licensed under Apache. Also, we could be impairing the future rights of our customers. Essentially, this is not really an open source product based on the implications of the license. While there is no payment of c…

Any chance you can unsnippet that quote? In the longterm can the HN team to look at how snippets work on mobile. Reading that on my phone was horrendous...

Reading it on desktop wasn't great either

Re: GraphQL Patent Infringement Issues

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Post by yasserkaddour »

CuriousCosmic wrote: post #64
yomly wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any chance you can unsnippet that quote? In the longterm can the HN team to look at how snippets work on mobile. Reading that on my phone was horrendous...

Reading it on desktop wasn't great either

Sorry, with Hacker News Enhancement Suite[1] it looked great.

[1] https://github.com/etcet/HNES

Re: GraphQL Patent Infringement Issues

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Post by moocowtruck »

perpetualcrayon wrote: post #61
ungzd wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But if you are using ideas from their software, you are infringing patents too.

I'm obviously not condoning patent infringement. The idea is to learn from useful ideas and implement a non-infringing equivalent as an open source project. You can't patent "math", or "computer science", or ideas comparably broad.

you shouldn't be able to patent a query language for a graph either but here we are
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