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Re: GraphQL Patent Infringement Issues

#31

My take on all this is Facebook's legal team seems to be sending a message to the open source community that they should come for the ideas, but wait for a truly open source alternative to come out before using those ideas in their own products.

But if you are using ideas from their software, you are infringing patents too.

Re: GraphQL Patent Infringement Issues

#32
post #29

Help me on this: Facebook has just removed the PATENTS file from GraphQL repository, and now there are issues for this? And at the same time people are arguing over removing it from React? This is madness…

What? They haven't... https://github.com/graphql/graphql-js/blob/master/PATENTS

Re: GraphQL Patent Infringement Issues

#33
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://medium.com/@ji/the-react-license-for-founders-and-ct... TL;DR - In 2012, Yahoo sued Facebook over 10 patents, "general sentiment in the industry was that the lawsuit against Facebook was without merit; some said Yahoo was a patent troll." Facebook spent a lot of money acquiring a patent warchest to be used defensively against patent suits in the future. Yahoo then drops the patent infringement case. "The key…

You use React or GraphQL on any project at your company, and suddenly Facebook gets free reign to use ANY IP your company claims? That's the definition of toxic.

No. How did you manage to get that interpretation?

Re: GraphQL Patent Infringement Issues

#36
post #34

Can anyone point me to a single instance where anything bad has actually happened because of Facebook's patent clause in one of their open source libraries?

It's a ticking bomb. You don't control what Facebook do or won't do and it's enough for lawyers to freak out.

You can't know what would happen if Zuckerberg is replaced (accidents happen) and corporate water-heads take over Facebook.

Re: GraphQL Patent Infringement Issues

#38

This GitHub issue is almost three weeks old and without any formal answer. At the very least, Facebook doesn't care about solving the problem, which is almost as bad as having malevolent plans to use these GraphQL patents.

    > At the very least, Facebook doesn't
    > care about solving the problem
This attitude isn't in the least bit helpful. It's been escalated to their legal council and the maintainer has said many many times that he's chasing it.

Re: GraphQL Patent Infringement Issues

#39

Serious question. React has been around for a while. Companies like Airbnb and Wix, for example, have been using React for a while. If Facebook were going to leverage this the way people are scared of, wouldn’t there be some example of them using it the way people are scared of? You know, on a company doing something it’s proven that they could make major money on? It’s not like this is a new provision, it’s been aro…

    > If Facebook were going to leverage
    > this the way people are scared of,
    > wouldn’t there be some example of
    > them using it the way people are
    > scared of?
Sadly no, it's a real issue, because we can't predict the future. Zuck dies, is replaced by someone with a more billg frame of mind, chaos ensues. That's something we don't have any control over, so it is a valid question. The current global political situation shows the dangers of relying on political norms to protect you, rather than law.

Re: GraphQL Patent Infringement Issues

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You use React or GraphQL on any project at your company, and suddenly Facebook gets free reign to use ANY IP your company claims? That's the definition of toxic.

No. How did you manage to get that interpretation?

Actually, that's not a completely unreasonable interpretation. You are then unable to sue FB over patents, so FB could indeed just use any of your IP.
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