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Re: iOS 11 reviewed

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Post by walterbell »

jonathanbull wrote: post #9
walterbell wrote: post #3

No VPN button in Control Center? Do Apple employees use public wi-fi?

VPNs are configured in Settings->General. Any reason why that would need to be regularly toggled, out of interest?

Some reasons:

  - VPNs do not stay connected
  - VPNs use a lot of battery
  - switching VPNs (e.g. work, personal)
  - mandatory for public wifi, optional elsewhere
  - some sites block VPNs (netflix, best buy, american airlines)
  - some networks block VPNs

Re: iOS 11 reviewed

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Post by darthbanane »

Crontab wrote: post #14
darthbanane wrote: post #8

Review is not thorough. One huge change in the control center is that the wifi “toggle” doesn’t toggle wifi off anymore (wait what?). It just disconnects from the current network and doesn’t reconnect for a minute or so. If you don’t want to be tracked by wifi APs it seems you have to force touch settings into wifi and disable the adapter from there. Huge step backwards IMHO.

Agreed. That's bad and a lot of people will expect the old functionality.

It feels like they’re trying to educate me as a user that switching wifi off to save battery is not super smart.

It’s true, the difference is minuscule at best (20-30 minutes of battery life) but maybe I want to micromanage to get these 20 minutes. Or because I am concerned about privacy.

My take is that if you want to “educate” users on how best to use a feature you must leave them the freedom to do it wrong (depending on the consequences). If you’re right they will do what you want (profit) and if you’re wrong then you have avoided alienating them.

Re: iOS 11 reviewed

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Post by _ph_ »

ohfouroneone wrote: post #15
masklinn wrote: post #4

> Practically speaking, do I need to be able to play phone games from 2009 on my 2017 iPhone? Not really. The problem is not that you can't play phone games from 2009 on your 2017 iPhone, tying 32b deprecation to a hardware revision would actually have been nice (regardless of the hardware still being able to run in 32b mode). But that's not what's happening, the problem is that you can't play phone games from 2009 o…

It's not that games from 2009 don't run, only games that haven't been updated since 2009 don't run. All a developer needs to do is recompile and push an update.

I have a ton of apps no longer supported on iOS 11. They come in 2 main groups:

- apps which were abandoned

- apps which were replaced by a successor. In the absence of update fees, this is the easiest way to generate new revenue for continuous updates. I am happy to pay for app maintenance, but this scheme means, that there is no automatic data migration from the old to the new apps.

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Post by cm2187 »

JBReefer wrote: post #12
cm2187 wrote: post #5

Also be aware that iOS 11 seems to be incompatible with Windows Server 2016. Seems to be an http2 implementation problem.

In what way? That seems like an extremely serious problem, given how many LOB apps run on Windows Server.

I don't have much details.

https://portal.smartertools.com/community/a89593/ios-11-and-...

http://www.kraftkennedy.com/critical-issue-apple-ios-11-mail...

Where I work we received an email urging us not to upgrade, I believe for that reason.

Re: iOS 11 reviewed

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Post by ReverseCold »

microcolonel wrote: post #2

> All iPhone cameras support slow-mo video and Burst Mode shots, and all iPhones now include Touch ID fingerprint sensors. All except one. ;- ) > its never-look-back approach to software compatibility. You mean no approach to software compatibility? Is walking down the street an approach to eating ice cream?

If down the street there is a new ice cream shop, then yes.

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Post by RKearney »

mikeash wrote: post #11
jonathanbull wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

VPNs are configured in Settings->General. Any reason why that would need to be regularly toggled, out of interest?

I haven't used it in a while, but when I did, it wasn't very good at reconnecting after sleeping the device or switching networks.

Sounds like it may have been an issue with the remote end of the VPN tunnel then. I've been connected to VPN for days at a time, switching between Wi-Fi and cellular (including switching between IPv4-only, IPv6-only, and dual-stack networks), and have never had an issue with the device automatically re-establishing the VPN tunnel.

Of course things could have also just improved over time.

Re: iOS 11 reviewed

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Post by wlesieutre »

masklinn wrote: post #4

> Practically speaking, do I need to be able to play phone games from 2009 on my 2017 iPhone? Not really. The problem is not that you can't play phone games from 2009 on your 2017 iPhone, tying 32b deprecation to a hardware revision would actually have been nice (regardless of the hardware still being able to run in 32b mode). But that's not what's happening, the problem is that you can't play phone games from 2009 o…

>"Free space" which they could already have gained back by removing the applications in the first place.

Were apps previously installed as fat binaries with 64 and 32-bit architectures included, and the 32-bit chunk has now been removed?

Or was that already taken care of with the "app thinning" stuff a couple of years ago?

Re: iOS 11 reviewed

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Post by mashehu »

kawsper wrote: post #13

There is one thing I hope they that they fix in iOS, and that is to guide app-makers to understand bilingual users, I type a lot on both danish and english, and having to switch language in the keyboard for every conversation can get pretty tiresome. Luckily both iMessage and WhatsApp seems to support it now, so I hope they somehow can get other apps in on it. Telegram does not support this :/

Try 3rd-party keyboards like Swiftkey, where keyboard/autocorrect is bilingual, so no more switching needed (now I would only need a trilingual keyboard for my use case...).

Re: iOS 11 reviewed

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Post by walterbell »

RKearney wrote: post #26
mikeash wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't used it in a while, but when I did, it wasn't very good at reconnecting after sleeping the device or switching networks.

Sounds like it may have been an issue with the remote end of the VPN tunnel then. I've been connected to VPN for days at a time, switching between Wi-Fi and cellular (including switching between IPv4-only, IPv6-only, and dual-stack networks), and have never had an issue with the device automatically re-establishing the VPN tunnel. Of course things could have also just improved over time.

Which VPN provider or enterprise gateway? Does your VPN Profile have an "Always-On" setting? That's only available on managed devices and it ensures that no traffic is passed unless the device is connected to a VPN, which is what causes the VPN to automatically reconnect.

If you have a standalone VPN app, it may also reconnect silently. But the system VPN does not stay reliably connected across device sleep and network status changes.

Re: iOS 11 reviewed

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Post by cm2187 »

masklinn wrote: post #4

> Practically speaking, do I need to be able to play phone games from 2009 on my 2017 iPhone? Not really. The problem is not that you can't play phone games from 2009 on your 2017 iPhone, tying 32b deprecation to a hardware revision would actually have been nice (regardless of the hardware still being able to run in 32b mode). But that's not what's happening, the problem is that you can't play phone games from 2009 o…

If I have to choose between my beloved Tetris app and iOS 11, I stick to my Tetris app.
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