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Did California plastic bag ban result in San Diego's current hepatitis outbreak?

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Re: Did California plastic bag ban result in San Diego's current hepatitis outbreak?

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Post by prostoalex »

antnisp wrote: post #24
BlackjackCF wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately, the plastic bag ban is only a side effect of the real problem. California has a homeless problem and there aren't enough resources made available in California to address this. The homeless don't have access to resources to readily dispose of waste.

One of the richest and largest polities on earth doesn't have the resources to guarantee basic sanitaion for all residents.

The definition of rich is "having a great deal of money or assets", California's tight budget doesn't leave much room for a large reserve - what comes in gets spent the same year, and it's always a mystery whether or not the state will be solvent next year.

Re: Did California plastic bag ban result in San Diego's current hepatitis outbreak?

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Post by crdoconnor »

prostoalex wrote: post #81
antnisp wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the richest and largest polities on earth doesn't have the resources to guarantee basic sanitaion for all residents.

The definition of rich is "having a great deal of money or assets", California's tight budget doesn't leave much room for a large reserve - what comes in gets spent the same year, and it's always a mystery whether or not the state will be solvent next year.

Thank prop 13 for that.

Re: Did California plastic bag ban result in San Diego's current hepatitis outbreak?

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Post by prostoalex »

crdoconnor wrote: post #83
prostoalex wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The definition of rich is "having a great deal of money or assets", California's tight budget doesn't leave much room for a large reserve - what comes in gets spent the same year, and it's always a mystery whether or not the state will be solvent next year.

Thank prop 13 for that.

Or high-speed rail. Or unreasonable pension obligations.

Re: Did California plastic bag ban result in San Diego's current hepatitis outbreak?

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Post by crdoconnor »

prostoalex wrote: post #84
crdoconnor wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank prop 13 for that.

Or high-speed rail. Or unreasonable pension obligations.

Just prop 13. If a less well off Europe can handle all 3 so can the richest state in the richest country.

Re: Did California plastic bag ban result in San Diego's current hepatitis outbreak?

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Post by prostoalex »

crdoconnor wrote: post #85
prostoalex wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or high-speed rail. Or unreasonable pension obligations.

Just prop 13. If a less well off Europe can handle all 3 so can the richest state in the richest country.

While statutory property tax increases are exclusive to California, homeless populations are not.

Re: Did California plastic bag ban result in San Diego's current hepatitis outbreak?

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Post by crdoconnor »

prostoalex wrote: post #86
crdoconnor wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just prop 13. If a less well off Europe can handle all 3 so can the richest state in the richest country.

While statutory property tax increases are exclusive to California, homeless populations are not.

Being so spectacularly wealthy and having such a large homelessness problem at the same time is unique to California though.

Hence "wealth distribution" problem, not "not having enough wealth" problem.

Re: Did California plastic bag ban result in San Diego's current hepatitis outbreak?

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Post by prostoalex »

crdoconnor wrote: post #87
prostoalex wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While statutory property tax increases are exclusive to California, homeless populations are not.

Being so spectacularly wealthy and having such a large homelessness problem at the same time is unique to California though. Hence "wealth distribution" problem, not "not having enough wealth" problem.

Again, what number are you looking at to call California wealthy? California state budget revenues are $4,366 per capita, which is fairly low-end. North Dakota, Wyoming, Washington, Kentucky, Minnesota and Oregon are all in solid five digits a head. California's is richer than Georgia's $2,320 per capita for sure, but if it were a person in a company of 49 other friends, it would be a low-income friend always trying to borrow money.

Re: Did California plastic bag ban result in San Diego's current hepatitis outbreak?

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Post by sctb »

javajocky wrote: post #22
mattnewport wrote: post #18

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We still get hepatitis outbreaks here in Canada despite our universal healthcare. Universal healthcare does not automatically solve the problem of getting vaccinations to vulnerable populations or prioritizing the right interventions at the right time given limited resources. Maybe our situation is better here in this regard, I don't know the statistics, but it's demonstrably false that universal healthcare automatic…

I have no idea why you're getting downvoted for stating facts, and not in an argumentative or derogatory way. You're stating the truth, perhaps one people don't want to hear, but it's immature for them to downvote you.

Votes take a little while to stabilize and commenting about them just adds agitation, so the guidelines ask you to please not: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

Re: Did California plastic bag ban result in San Diego's current hepatitis outbreak?

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Post by crdoconnor »

prostoalex wrote: post #88
crdoconnor wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being so spectacularly wealthy and having such a large homelessness problem at the same time is unique to California though. Hence "wealth distribution" problem, not "not having enough wealth" problem.

Again, what number are you looking at to call California wealthy? California state budget revenues are $4,366 per capita, which is fairly low-end. North Dakota, Wyoming, Washington, Kentucky, Minnesota and Oregon are all in solid five digits a head. California's is richer than Georgia's $2,320 per capita for sure, but if it were a person in a company of 49 other friends, it would be a low-income friend always trying…

A GDP of $2.6 trillion, highest in the US and 14% of the US total. Deliberate starvation of state and city budgets doesn't stop California from being the richest state.
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