Why can’t the ad companies just use localStorage instead? Is that blocked too. I’m guessing this fucks up the Javascript paywall I’ve been building.
Every Major Advertising Group Is Blasting Apple for Blocking Cookies in Safari
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Re: Every Major Advertising Group Is Blasting Apple for Blocking Cookies in Safari
#92The thing about third party cookies that I really love is getting "targeted" ads, that make all banners all of a sudden have the appearance of saying something about you or what you have been doing, even when they don't.
Like the present you just secretly bought already for your wife being plastered all over your screen every site you visit. Or even better: "Ukrainian women want to meet you!". Yep yep. Must've searched for that, right? Didn't ya?
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#93> In an open letter expected to be published this afternoon, the groups describe the new standards as “opaque and arbitrary,”
Funny, "opaque and arbitrary" is exactly how I'd describe the web of 3rd party tracking of consumers these companies engage in. When all of these groups agree to openly disclose everything they do to track users, see the databases they maintain on us and allow easy opt outs like agreeing to follow the wishes of users who enable Do Not Track ... then I'll consider reenabling 3rd party cookies, etc.
Re: Every Major Advertising Group Is Blasting Apple for Blocking Cookies in Safari
#94If these guys are pissed off, you know someone is doing something right.
Re: Every Major Advertising Group Is Blasting Apple for Blocking Cookies in Safari
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
When their main revenue is ads? Will there be "acceptable ads"?
If I remember correctly, the idea is to block ads that don't conform to the standards set by the Coalition for Better Ads [0]. Google is (as you can expect) a member of this coalition (just like Facebook and many other companies [1]). [0]: https://www.betterads.org/standards/ [1]: https://www.betterads.org/members/
I get Google ads on mobile that flash and mislead. Virus Scan! Battery Scan! Clean Your Phone! With yellow and red. So at least on Android, Google serves tons of shit deserving blocking.
Re: Every Major Advertising Group Is Blasting Apple for Blocking Cookies in Safari
#96> When Apple first announced the limitations to cross-website tracking in June, the company said the changes are meant to improve trust with users, explaining that “users feel that trust is broken when they are being tracked and privacy-sensitive data about their web activity is acquired for purposes that they never agreed to.” This! I switched from Windows+Android to the Apple ecosystem in 2015. Because I love so ma…
So how would websites earn money?
Is everyone going to pay 3$ / month every website? Apple should have fixed that first, but is now blocking everyone because their own iAd failed. I think a lot is going to blow up, eg. Apple users requiring membership for websites + a subscription.
What if those companies suddenly require an email to read more content, then their backend syncs all the required data. ( yes, we will submit a fake email, but a lot of people won't)
Also, i see >1/2 of the frontpage from these "ad supported companies" that "everyone" hates, i don't want more paywalled articles appearing here...
I can understand blocking the ever cookie. But this is probably a bridge too far, i don't want to see more paywalled articles on HN.
And yeah, this will not be a popular opinion here... I'd appreciate responding with arguments instead of down voting :)
Edit: Failed, downvoting begins as expected
Re: Every Major Advertising Group Is Blasting Apple for Blocking Cookies in Safari
#97> When Apple first announced the limitations to cross-website tracking in June, the company said the changes are meant to improve trust with users, explaining that “users feel that trust is broken when they are being tracked and privacy-sensitive data about their web activity is acquired for purposes that they never agreed to.” This! I switched from Windows+Android to the Apple ecosystem in 2015. Because I love so ma…
So how would websites earn money? Is everyone going to pay 3$ / month every website? Apple should have fixed that first, but is now blocking everyone because their own iAd failed. I think a lot is going to blow up, eg. Apple users requiring membership for websites + a subscription. What if those companies suddenly require an email to read more content, then their backend syncs all the required data. ( yes, we will su…
Correct. By adding sufficient value that customers will pay (perhaps with the applepay integration). Or by adding sufficient value that a customer switches browsers.
Re: Every Major Advertising Group Is Blasting Apple for Blocking Cookies in Safari
#98> When Apple first announced the limitations to cross-website tracking in June, the company said the changes are meant to improve trust with users, explaining that “users feel that trust is broken when they are being tracked and privacy-sensitive data about their web activity is acquired for purposes that they never agreed to.” This! I switched from Windows+Android to the Apple ecosystem in 2015. Because I love so ma…
I've been PC since DOS, and I've switched too. Who the hell wants to be treated like a cross between a product to be monetized, and an enemy to be spied on?!
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Re: Every Major Advertising Group Is Blasting Apple for Blocking Cookies in Safari
#99I think targeted ads are boring. Or at least, the way they're often used is boring.
What benefit is there to keep showing me the same ads over and over for products I already use, websites I once visited, and products I once shopped for?
Show me quality ads for products and services that are new and interesting!
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#100> When Apple first announced the limitations to cross-website tracking in June, the company said the changes are meant to improve trust with users, explaining that “users feel that trust is broken when they are being tracked and privacy-sensitive data about their web activity is acquired for purposes that they never agreed to.” This! I switched from Windows+Android to the Apple ecosystem in 2015. Because I love so ma…
So how would websites earn money? Is everyone going to pay 3$ / month every website? Apple should have fixed that first, but is now blocking everyone because their own iAd failed. I think a lot is going to blow up, eg. Apple users requiring membership for websites + a subscription. What if those companies suddenly require an email to read more content, then their backend syncs all the required data. ( yes, we will su…
Websites don't inherently deserve to earn money. They have to earn it.