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With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Post by PeterisP »

dogruck wrote: post #617
ashark wrote: post #520

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It's been incredibly bad for at least ~3 decades. A sick person with insurance without a dedicated advocate (relative or friend) watching out for them non-stop will likely end up having several care screw-ups occur to them, and with a bill ludicrously rather than just insanely large and probably a few things in collections (even if they can pay them) if said advocate doesn't spend a couple hundred hours fighting insu…

Good points. Which leads to the question, when everybody has "free" healthcare, who gets the top docs, and who gets the bottom and average docs?

In general, you can always skip the whole gov't funded healthcare system to get a particular private service at a full cost, and some (though not most, depends on the specialty - plastic surgery will but trauma neurosurgery won't) of the top docs will work in this manner.

Other than that, the patient-doctor match gets mostly allocated on the basis of location and narrow specialty, or with limited availability; e.g. if you want a particular popular doc, then (s)he might have a queue, so you either wait when they become available or pick someone else.

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Post by Aaargh20318 »

falsedan wrote: post #707
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How am I insulting someone's abilities ? He's making a blanket statement that mobile phones are easily destroyed, which is bullshit. Sure, a person may be clumsy and often drop their phone, but that's not a problem with the phone itself. The world is full of small, fragile things. Should we start rubber-padding everything ? The same can be said for, e.g. glasses, should no one wear glasses anymore because they are 'e…

You said: > Maybe you are just clumsy or careless. People with physical restrictions, muscle deterioration, neural impairment can have difficulty with fine motor control, and drop things. Implying that someone is 'clumsy' is implicitly judging their physical ability. Additionally, modern smartphones are fragile (glass fronts, water damage) and discreet (wallet sized). They are broken more often than old dumbphones, a…

> Implying that someone is 'clumsy' is implicitly judging their physical ability.

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here. If someone has difficulty with fine motor control that's called 'clumsy'. How is that 'judging'?

All I'm saying that if you're constantly dropping your phone that is a problem with you and not the phone. This is as dumb as someone in a wheelchair saying we shouldn't make bicycles anymore because they can't use them.

> Those things usually don't cost hundreds of dollars AND are an everyday item.

So I guess you don't wear glasses ?

> No one said that people shouldn't have phones; just that their cost/risk benefit of phones has convinced them to stick beneath a certain price point.

That's not what was said at all. What I am arguing against is the following statement: "Except it's really easy to accidentally destroy or lose a phone."

They are making a general statement implying that people accidentally destroy or lose their phone all the time, which is simply not true. It may be true for them, but that's not what they are saying.

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Post by andai »

jsjohnst wrote: post #423
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I've used a case with almost every phone and shattered 4 screens in the last 4 years.

Not to be rude, but it'd likely be prudent for you to learn to be more careful.

You're not wrong!

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Post by thanksgiving »

dm319 wrote: post #543
thanksgiving wrote: post #485

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> not getting healthcare as a 20-something is popular, but incredibly shortsighted. My idea is that it is not something that you should have to think about. I mean I understand it is a difficult topic because you have these outliers that can totally destroy your life if you have a baby with a malfunctioning heart or whatever but it comes back to the question of what we think is fair. I sincerely believe that healthca…

> where the cost is too great AND the outcome is not good enough can and should get denied. I'm not completely clear on the point you're trying to make, but this is how things work in socialised healthcare. Not everything is paid for - instead the money that is available is spent on those that return the best value-for-money balanced against not being unfair on an individual level. The question of whether to MRI ever…

> Sure there are no silver bullets, but issues you bring up are being tackled to a relatively sophisticated degree in other countries.

That's perfect! One more question: how do you handle things like tobacco, alcohol, sugar, daredevils (think jackass the TV show)?

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Post by la_oveja »

narutouzumaki wrote: post #582
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My OnePlus One has Android 7.1.2 and August security patch (thanks to Paranoid Android)

Mine is still on stock but maybe now is the time to learn how to flash and all. Would you recommend doing it also in terms of camera and stability or is it rather experimental for testing new Android features / proof of concept etc.?

I keep my device updated thanks to these custom builds. I use them as my daily driver, totally recommended.

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Post by themihai »

pas wrote: post #319
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Android is full of Google suff. I can't hack my android either(i.e. get root-like access, remove stuff I want, run my *nix stuff etc) so as far as the restrictions are concerned the difference btw Android and iOS is not that significant. It pisses me off because it's said Android is OSS but in practice you can't really run AOSP on your Android device nor you can control/own your own device. You basically end-up with…

People have been saying these things for the last decade, and they still bought the next iPhone. And I'm not saying they are wrong. But they bought it for one thing, and that's the "feels" it gives them. It's not Android, they are not buying a phone, they're getting an iPhone(tm). Now, when you can buy a Huawei P-whatever that has the same lines-on-white flat design UI, the same speed, it's not the specs. And yes, th…

I fell Android is made for the purpose of selling google services. Last time I watched the Android keynote it was all about Google now and how much Google will know about you.

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Post by pas »

themihai wrote: post #726
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People have been saying these things for the last decade, and they still bought the next iPhone. And I'm not saying they are wrong. But they bought it for one thing, and that's the "feels" it gives them. It's not Android, they are not buying a phone, they're getting an iPhone(tm). Now, when you can buy a Huawei P-whatever that has the same lines-on-white flat design UI, the same speed, it's not the specs. And yes, th…

I fell Android is made for the purpose of selling google services. Last time I watched the Android keynote it was all about Google now and how much Google will know about you.

Agreed. But you can't make a keynote about kernel development and about Treble.

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Post by StudentStuff »

Vinnl wrote: post #713
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It's actually not too bad, even on phones without "easily" replaceable batteries. Speaking for the OnePlus One and Nexus 5 the procedure is pretty straight forward: pop it open using plastic trim tools (which are often sold with batteries) disconnect the ribbon cable and pry the battery off any adhesive. Drop the new one in, reconnect it and snap it back together and you're done. Depends on the phone I guess, but the…

And obtaining a battery? That sounds pretty difficult for a years-old phone of which the battery is not meant to be replaced...

eBay is your friend, you can get batteries for ancient phones like the Samsung Intercept for $4 still, brand new. Luckily for us, batteries are a highly commodified component, you can replace the cells yourself with minimal effort if you so choose.

When I'm feeling like an uber-cheapskate I rebuild laptop batteries, recycling the failed cells and replacing them with good cells from other batteries.

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Post by StudentStuff »

lucaspiller wrote: post #183
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A friend of mine takes that approach, but the T440 has a whole unibody panel that takes a minute or so to remove. The T430 and T410s comparatively have nice little hatches where a single screw will let you pull the drive. How do you like the X220s? I nabbed one for a friend a while back, seemed like a nice smaller form factor laptop, she rather liked it iirc. Good price too, think I paid $65 for it.

What sort of battery life do you get with these? My 4 year old MBA now gets around 6 hours while coding vs 10 when new.

I'm just passing the 6 hour 30 min mark, though my battery is a few years old. Its reporting as 75.8% capacity with 4% left, so another 20 minutes perhaps, gonna throw it on the dock here though.

I've got Atom open, Signal Desktop, Tor Browser Bundle (Youtube), Firefox with a few dozen tabs (Soundcloud, HN, etc). Couple spreadsheets too in LibreOffice, and Thunderbird & Transmission too. With a few of those closed, should be able to get some more battery life, but I don't feel in need of it.

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Post by racl101 »

nikofeyn wrote: post #35
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Yep, still doesn't get better than OSX.

as a user of both windows and mac os x, what do you truly like about mac os x that you prefer it so heavily over windows?

Well, for starters:

- That it has Unix and its tools underneath

- That app guis look consistently good on it (although I will admit that Windows has caught up to Mac OS X in this regard)

- That I don't have to worry about catching viruses as easily when browsing the Internet. Yes, I know there are viruses for Mac, but I've not come across them. Not the same with Windows. In fact, I made the switch after catching a nasty one using Windows Vista and losing more than half of my stuff.

- A corollary is not having to use Antivirus on a Mac

- That even though Macs have little in terms of specs, that the OS doesn't fucking lag something fierce. Last Windows I used, Windows 8, was still a memory hog for a machine having twice the RAM as my Mac. It was a work machine, not a personal machine.

And Most importantly, that I don't have to worry about maintaining the machine for all the aforementioned reasons and that I just get stuff done.

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