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With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Post by mikeash »

grecy wrote: post #469
ksec wrote: post #248

If we take a look from a Global Perspective, US has the cheapest iPhone ( All prices excluding sales Tax ), and everywhere else had it more expensive. i.e The $1K Prices may be making a big waves in US, but elsewhere in the world they have been paying that much for an iPhone already. And in terms of iPhones / Population / Apple Store, the US has it most. While in Japan 60% of the Smartphone are iPhone ( i.e Higher th…

> US has the cheapest iPhone It is interesting to note among Developed countries, the US has the cheapest everything . Cars, computers, building materials, clothes, TVs. You name it, it is cheapest in the USA. It is interesting to note this is because people in the US have much less disposable income than people in other developed countries. Companies can charge higher prices in other developed countries because peop…

Typical US sales tax of 0-6% versus typical European VAT of 20-25% certainly makes a big difference too.

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Post by 5_minutes »

DigitalJack wrote: post #48
5_minutes wrote: post #2

Previously, if you bought a Plus, upgraded the storage you also hit the $1000 mark quite easily. Apple can't do much wrong: removed the audio jack did not hurt iPhone sales. The new mac book pro, ridiculously priced, a very 'particular' keyboard, was the fastest selling laptop ever. If you see the reactions on let's say, The Verge, on any post regarding new Apple products - it's insane. So I think Apple is still in a…

My wife has one of the new ones with the "particular" keyboard. I think it's okay (the keyboard), but it's pretty noisy.

It's so noisy that on a conference call, one can not take minutes without having to disable their own input mic.. haah

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Post by hammock »

xutopia wrote: post #510

No one has mentioned the possibility of using UCB-C as a docking station. Phones are already powerful enough for the kind of work an executive does (email, word processing, spreadsheet). Now if their computer is in their pocket and they can plug into any screen at all they don't need a computer at all. The progression of the smartphone is evidently to replace the personal computer and the iPhone X should be a step in…

Google pixel has USB C for docking and is only $650...

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Post by TCM »

xutopia wrote: post #510

No one has mentioned the possibility of using UCB-C as a docking station. Phones are already powerful enough for the kind of work an executive does (email, word processing, spreadsheet). Now if their computer is in their pocket and they can plug into any screen at all they don't need a computer at all. The progression of the smartphone is evidently to replace the personal computer and the iPhone X should be a step in…

I think the iPad pro is more targeted for the kind of work that an executive does. Docking stations / plugging into any screens don't seem like something that has been well thought out and I don't think that Apple's strategy right now is to market to that kind of audience.

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Post by astura »

criddell wrote: post #427
astura wrote: post #332

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Except it's really easy to accidentally destroy or lose a phone. That's the reason I don't buy expensive phones anymore, because I'll probably just drop it.

If you bought your phone with a credit card, check to see if it offers any kind of purchase protection. I dropped my phone about a month after I had, called the credit card company and they refunded me almost instantly. No forms to fill out, nothing to mail in.

Purchase protection usually only lasts 30-90 days.

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Post by emodendroket »

xutopia wrote: post #510

No one has mentioned the possibility of using UCB-C as a docking station. Phones are already powerful enough for the kind of work an executive does (email, word processing, spreadsheet). Now if their computer is in their pocket and they can plug into any screen at all they don't need a computer at all. The progression of the smartphone is evidently to replace the personal computer and the iPhone X should be a step in…

> The progression of the smartphone is evidently to replace the personal computer and the iPhone X should be a step in that direction.

Yeah, I kept hearing the same thing about tablets till sales dropped off. I'll believe it when I see it.

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Post by yladiz »

supermdguy wrote: post #489
yladiz wrote: post #200

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If someone is going to 3D print your face, they're determined enough to get into your phone regardless.

Even the FBI had trouble getting into an iPhone. 3D printing a face might be a real solution in situations like that. Of course, for the average person, face id is probably just as secure as touch.

It will still have the same constraints as normal TouchID, so it will lock after 48 (72?) hrs and will only unlock with passcode. It might be marginally easier for FBI but I imagine 3D printing an acceptable face will be tough, especially if it uses IR on top of 3D cameras.

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Post by ViViDboarder »

alkonaut wrote: post #322
blubb-fish wrote: post #300

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so you spend also excessive amount of money on water because you drink it several times a day? there is objectively no reason to spend more than 200 Euro on a smartphone - except for attempting to inflate one's ego.

I work at a keyboard 8h per day, so I happily pay $100 for a keyboard that is nice, even though I could get one for $20. Same with the phone. Even if it's just some minor improvement I use it so much that it's worth it. Also it depends on what you use it for. If you use it for web browsing/messaging/email/phone calls then most phones will do. But other features such as the camera might be very dependent on price. Add…

But a nice keyboard will last more than a decade. A smartphone will not.

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Post by astura »

gruez wrote: post #424
astura wrote: post #388

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That's another cost. So on top of the thousand dollar phone I now have to buy ~$150+ in cases (which are dubiously effective) and insurance. Instead I buy a ~$200 phone (which is just as good to me than a $1,000 phone) and when that one breaks I get another ~$200 phone. I don't care about a broken screen though, if the screen cracks then I'll just use it until the phone isn't functional anymore.

How can you spend $150+ in cases?

It was an off the cuff guess on what the average person would spend on a "military grade case"+insurance. I based it on the fact that I know the high end cases can sell for upward of $100. Apparently there are cheaper options [1] though.

[1] https://www.thrillist.com/tech/best-military-grade-iphone-ca...

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Post by ashark »

dogruck wrote: post #465
mbroncano wrote: post #414

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You got it right, it's difficult to imagine for a European what it's like to deal with having no medical care if unemployed. In addition, the fact that's part of every discussion gives a hint of how much of an issue this is.

Strange how the US healthcare setup is largely unchanged over many years, yet the general perception is that it's suddenly total chaos. I'm not saying the status quo is best, but we didn't suddenly plunge into a crisis.

It's been incredibly bad for at least ~3 decades. A sick person with insurance without a dedicated advocate (relative or friend) watching out for them non-stop will likely end up having several care screw-ups occur to them, and with a bill ludicrously rather than just insanely large and probably a few things in collections (even if they can pay them) if said advocate doesn't spend a couple hundred hours fighting insurance and hospital billing and mailing regulators and wrestling a mountain of paperwork and bills.

Watched this process with sick relatives in the 90s, and it was already fucked-up then. Gone through it with my wife's 3 pregnancies and a couple family illnesses in the last 5ish years. Same thing. It's a broken, evil system that ruthlessly exploits and crushes anyone without the time, wits, and wherewithal to fight it every step, and it has been for a long time. I think what changed is we have much better exposure to what it's like elsewhere, so more of us are aware that there is no reason whatsoever to keep hurting people this way.

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