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Re: Windows for Linux Nerds

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Post by mwcampbell »

bactrian wrote: post #2

This post was interesting in a morbid way but you can count the Linux nerds that want leave the open world of Linux for Microsoft very easily. They all work at Microsoft. Microsoft is losing on mobile, desktop, servers, and IoT. Their entire ecosystem is a technological deadend. If you're a Linux Nerd, you should probably keep using Linux if you care about having a good career going forward.

I think better advice would be this: You should probably not be a platform zealot of any stripe if you care about having a good career going forward.

Re: Windows for Linux Nerds

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Post by tootie »

userbinator wrote: post #69

If you need to access files in VolFS, you can use bash.exe to copy them somewhere under /mnt/c, use Windows to do whatever on it, then use bash.exe to copy them back when you are done. IMHO this is the worst-designed(?) part of the whole WSL. Copying files back and forth is the antithesis of a "seamless Windows and Linux experience", to put it mildly. From that perspective it's no better than running an isolated VM.…

I'm not sure what she is talking about because you definitely do not have to copy files across. I have a git checkout on my C: drive and interact with it via /mnt/c with no trouble. I'm editing in VS Code and running git and npm in Ubuntu shell with zero friction.

Re: Windows for Linux Nerds

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Post by neves »

userbinator wrote: post #69

If you need to access files in VolFS, you can use bash.exe to copy them somewhere under /mnt/c, use Windows to do whatever on it, then use bash.exe to copy them back when you are done. IMHO this is the worst-designed(?) part of the whole WSL. Copying files back and forth is the antithesis of a "seamless Windows and Linux experience", to put it mildly. From that perspective it's no better than running an isolated VM.…

Me too. It was one of the reasons I came back to windows, but it proved useless. Sure I've just discovered it after having a corrupted filesystem.

I dreamed to edit a movie in a video editor, pass a filter using ffmpeg, but can't even edit a file in notepad and run it in Python.

VMs or remote access are still the best solution for development. Even cygwin and using setup.exe to edit files are better.

Re: Windows for Linux Nerds

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Post by neves »

tootie wrote: post #82
userbinator wrote: post #69

If you need to access files in VolFS, you can use bash.exe to copy them somewhere under /mnt/c, use Windows to do whatever on it, then use bash.exe to copy them back when you are done. IMHO this is the worst-designed(?) part of the whole WSL. Copying files back and forth is the antithesis of a "seamless Windows and Linux experience", to put it mildly. From that perspective it's no better than running an isolated VM.…

I'm not sure what she is talking about because you definitely do not have to copy files across. I have a git checkout on my C: drive and interact with it via /mnt/c with no trouble. I'm editing in VS Code and running git and npm in Ubuntu shell with zero friction.

Soon you will have problems. She is right.

Re: Windows for Linux Nerds

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Post by dingo_bat »

tootie wrote: post #22

A lot of snarky comments here, but I've been using Ubuntu shell on Win 10 for the past few weeks and it's really fantastic. Way faster than a VM and much more compatible than cygwin or msys.

Same here. I've not booted up my arch VM in months. The file format incompatibility is a small problem.

Re: Windows for Linux Nerds

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Post by neves »

thinkxl wrote: post #34
tootie wrote: post #22

A lot of snarky comments here, but I've been using Ubuntu shell on Win 10 for the past few weeks and it's really fantastic. Way faster than a VM and much more compatible than cygwin or msys.

More snarky than usual, i don't know why. "why not just" or "just use" kind of comments that you see more in reddit. Even someone recommended an Electron alternative, on HN! the #1 Electron hater community. Interesting.

If you've lost your work and time due to their design decisions, you'd be "snarky".

Re: Windows for Linux Nerds

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Post by ayanamist »

neves wrote: post #84
tootie wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure what she is talking about because you definitely do not have to copy files across. I have a git checkout on my C: drive and interact with it via /mnt/c with no trouble. I'm editing in VS Code and running git and npm in Ubuntu shell with zero friction.

Soon you will have problems. She is right.

What is the problems? I have been doing this for one year without issues.

Re: Windows for Linux Nerds

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Post by KingMachiavelli »

santoshalper wrote: post #6
bactrian wrote: post #2

This post was interesting in a morbid way but you can count the Linux nerds that want leave the open world of Linux for Microsoft very easily. They all work at Microsoft. Microsoft is losing on mobile, desktop, servers, and IoT. Their entire ecosystem is a technological deadend. If you're a Linux Nerd, you should probably keep using Linux if you care about having a good career going forward.

Linux still sucks shit on the Desktop. I try it every year, and every year it sucks very slightly less. It goes beyond drivers and application compatibility, Linux distros are ugly and the people making them have no taste. The Desktop/Laptop market is not nearly as important as it used to be, but within that space, Microsoft's dominance is about as strong as ever. Apple might have been able to take a dent out of it i…

> Linux distros are ugly...

Have you looked an a modern linux DE in the past 5 years? It's within subjective opinion as to which looks better. And a lot of time that opinion is "what the user has used before". And Windows is far from a smooth experience given how disrupted the Windows 10 UI changes were in Enterprise and Educational environments

Re: Windows for Linux Nerds

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Post by jcastro »

mixedCase wrote: post #39
jcastro wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nice UIs won't fix people's broadcom wireless cards.

Responding snark with snark: Then don't use them. Most wireless cards out there work just fine. When I had to use a laptop with a Broadcom chip for uni I used my Android phone as tethering (charging it as a bonus) and the guy sitting next to me just used a dongle smaller than his thumb.

Most people (even developers) aren't willing to open up their laptop to replace their laptop wifi cards or to have to use dongles to get on their wireless or to play endless hardware roulette.

Re: Windows for Linux Nerds

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Post by kyriakos »

pbnjay wrote: post #56

TBH I dug out my Surface Pro when Jess started talking up WSL... Finally got Windows Insider Preview going so that I could try it out for myself. I spend most of my days in a text editor and a terminal, and macOS has been making even that painful sometimes. Linux was my desktop for ages before I switched to mac ~7 years ago, so it'll be nice to see what it can do now.

you no longer need Windows Insider preview for WSOL - its part of the creator's update. still has a beta tag but its available without having to use a full beta OS.
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