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RIM on Apple's claims of Blackberry Bold signal loss

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Re: RIM on Apple's claims of Blackberry Bold signal loss

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They showed a video of the Bold 9700 having a death grip issue which probably also effects very few people in real world usage. (13% of 9700 owners based on this site's poll)

I have a Bold 9700 and have never had a problem of this kind.

I have a Bold 9700 and the wifey has an iphone.

I get much better reception than her in bad areas. I also get much better reception and network switching while travelling.

Re: RIM on Apple's claims of Blackberry Bold signal loss

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point is that you can have the same effect on an iPhone 4 with your pinky.

That hasn't been easy to reproduce though. Some people, in some places, but not like the "death grip".

Looks easy to me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgouzUMlQpY

Re: RIM on Apple's claims of Blackberry Bold signal loss

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Crackberry's call for duplication Apple's test? Go to an area where you have full bars while holding the phone gingerly, then change that loose grip to a bit more of a death grip. is flawed given that "full bars" can indicate an arbitrarily strong signal. In order to see the effect Apple demonstrated you will most likely need to be in a location where you just barely have "full bars". Why are we linking to a website…

The statement itself was issued by RIM. I'm pretty sure they know a thing or two about bars and antenna design.

Re: RIM on Apple's claims of Blackberry Bold signal loss

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If the antenna is internal (and invisible) how many would even realise they were affecting it in any way? Apple drew a lot of attention to its antenna, both in terms of design and marketing, so how many people reported problems after deliberately trying to screw with it? I just made my iPhone 3GS, Blackberry 9700 and Nokia N97 all drop a couple of bars by covering their internal antennas with my palm. I expect this t…

I think you've missed the point.

With the iPhone 4, it's possible to reproduce this issue by holding the phone in a very natural way. The fact that other phones also lose reception but only if you hold them in a special way clearly isn't a problem - if it were it would have created a big stink.

And if you think people are deliberately making a big production out of this to screw with Apple, then why wasn't it done with earlier models of the iPhone?

Re: RIM on Apple's claims of Blackberry Bold signal loss

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They should sue Apple for false claims.

and libel, there is clear intent to damage RIM's brand name and profitability. Steve is a dirty bird like that.

Huh? Were I to find out that Big Mac is people I would tell the press with the clear intent to damage McDonald’s brand name and profitability. Is that also libel? I would hope, anyway, that true claims are never libel.

Re: RIM on Apple's claims of Blackberry Bold signal loss

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Crackberry's call for duplication Apple's test? Go to an area where you have full bars while holding the phone gingerly, then change that loose grip to a bit more of a death grip. is flawed given that "full bars" can indicate an arbitrarily strong signal. In order to see the effect Apple demonstrated you will most likely need to be in a location where you just barely have "full bars". Why are we linking to a website…

The statement itself was issued by RIM. I'm pretty sure they know a thing or two about bars and antenna design.

They do know and they do have a problem but they didn't address the topic. They deflected the attenuation problem with the Bold and parried by putting the emphasis back on Apple's design. That is how PR works.
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