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RIM on Apple's claims of Blackberry Bold signal loss

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Re: RIM on Apple's claims of Blackberry Bold signal loss

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Did Apple even attempt to provide evidence of the Blackberry having a similar problem?

They showed a video of a Blackberry that, when gripped, looses bars [+]. If they wanted to really convince me they would have to show me better measurements but I would say that’s evidence, isn’t it?

[+] You can scroll down and watch it yourself: http://www.apple.com/antenna/

Re: RIM on Apple's claims of Blackberry Bold signal loss

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Did Apple even attempt to provide evidence of the Blackberry having a similar problem?

They showed a video of the Bold 9700 having a death grip issue which probably also effects very few people in real world usage. (13% of 9700 owners based on this site's poll)

Re: RIM on Apple's claims of Blackberry Bold signal loss

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If the antenna is internal (and invisible) how many would even realise they were affecting it in any way? Apple drew a lot of attention to its antenna, both in terms of design and marketing, so how many people reported problems after deliberately trying to screw with it?

I just made my iPhone 3GS, Blackberry 9700 and Nokia N97 all drop a couple of bars by covering their internal antennas with my palm. I expect this to happen with any phone.

Re: RIM on Apple's claims of Blackberry Bold signal loss

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My BB Bold 900 looses a bar or two if I cover it in a way that it would be impossible for me to make calls then. Never had any issues with it, never drooped a call. But to be fair, I'm in Slovenia in Mobitel's network which is one of (if not) the best in the world. So maybe all this problems come from crappy network services too.

Re: RIM on Apple's claims of Blackberry Bold signal loss

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My BB Bold 900 looses a bar or two if I cover it in a way that it would be impossible for me to make calls then. Never had any issues with it, never drooped a call. But to be fair, I'm in Slovenia in Mobitel's network which is one of (if not) the best in the world. So maybe all this problems come from crappy network services too.

Jobs clearly stated that the demo of bars being dropped on other brands of phones was done in an area of bad network reception. If people try the death grip with good network reception they won't see any drop in bars. As I understand, this is the same for the iPhone 4.

Re: RIM on Apple's claims of Blackberry Bold signal loss

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post #5

If the antenna is internal (and invisible) how many would even realise they were affecting it in any way? Apple drew a lot of attention to its antenna, both in terms of design and marketing, so how many people reported problems after deliberately trying to screw with it? I just made my iPhone 3GS, Blackberry 9700 and Nokia N97 all drop a couple of bars by covering their internal antennas with my palm. I expect this t…

The point is that you can have the same effect on an iPhone 4 with your pinky.

Re: RIM on Apple's claims of Blackberry Bold signal loss

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post #5

If the antenna is internal (and invisible) how many would even realise they were affecting it in any way? Apple drew a lot of attention to its antenna, both in terms of design and marketing, so how many people reported problems after deliberately trying to screw with it? I just made my iPhone 3GS, Blackberry 9700 and Nokia N97 all drop a couple of bars by covering their internal antennas with my palm. I expect this t…

The point is that you can have the same effect on an iPhone 4 with your pinky.

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