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Snapchat’s Influencers Are Fleeing to Instagram for Money

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pjc50 wrote: post #87
justboxing wrote: post #68

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> So you don't see a difference between Nope. There is no difference. @jonknee is right. I once met this camera grip boy at a boxing fight watch here in San Francisco. He worked at various sets in L.A., very close to the filming. He would say how he was on Kim Kardashian's "Reality Show" and how the whole thing was completely scripted for shock effect, drama etc. He said "They'd sometime do retakes and tell Kim - "Th…

Interesting tangent here. The growth in "reality" TV was driven by the desire to ditch a very particular kind of skilled, unionised talent: writers. The writers' strike caused a wave of these improvised shows that were pretending not to be acting, they became popular with the public, and the rest is history. Kim Kardashian's ethnicity is highly relevant as well. Hollywood is a very white place. There really aren't al…

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Re: Snapchat’s Influencers Are Fleeing to Instagram for Money

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Post by pjc50 »

sortaThrowaway wrote: post #99
pjc50 wrote: post #87

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Interesting tangent here. The growth in "reality" TV was driven by the desire to ditch a very particular kind of skilled, unionised talent: writers. The writers' strike caused a wave of these improvised shows that were pretending not to be acting, they became popular with the public, and the rest is history. Kim Kardashian's ethnicity is highly relevant as well. Hollywood is a very white place. There really aren't al…

"people who want a black star to look up to. Kim fills that gap in the market." ? Not sure what you mean. She isn't black. Do you mean because Kanye is on there?

.. good point, I can't remember why I thought that; almost certainly to do with Kanye.

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Post by lawlessone »

maruhan2 wrote: post #79
jonahx wrote: post #74

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Interesting point. I suppose if I press myself hard enough I have to admit that I just don't like what they are doing, and think it's a net negative to our culture, by my own standards. There's always been lowbrow culture and pop culture -- so there's nothing essentially new here. But it seems like its ubiquity and popularity have reached new heights. "Seems" being the operative word, one could argue. I think it's re…

I just personally wish the entertainment industry isn't big in the first place. Movies, music, sports, models, etc. So much money and human resources spent on something that produces little tangible value.

We have a society that requires everyone to work to live. But thanks to automation we don't have anything else for them to do. So they do this.

Re: Snapchat’s Influencers Are Fleeing to Instagram for Money

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Post by irahul »

musage wrote: post #92
irahul wrote: post #62

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> dignity (the desire to be respected by everybody) Weird. I thought dignity is self-respect(not respect from others). So do you have a list of what earns you dignity vs what is narcissism? Like covering your gut in loose clothing is fine but god forbid you post your abs on insta where only people who see it are people who willingly followed you to see it and the people who went on to explore tab to see it and then j…

> So do you have a list of what earns you dignity vs what is narcissism? Like covering your gut in loose clothing is fine but but what has it to do with dignity? And why would anyone need a "list"? > Don't like it, don't seek it. I can be aware of something and have an opinion about it without engaging in it. And I surely do not need your permission for that, and calling anything negative you don't like "complaining"…

> but what has it to do with dignity? And why would anyone need a "list"?

Conversations have context, you know. Parent poster mentioned dignity being different. Did you not read the or are you intentionally clipping it.

> "Creating content" has as much "value" as people give it in form of "attention"

Is..is that supposed to be an insult or some deep insight you stumbled onto? I don't understand why you are stating the obvious with such conviction and quotes.

> Work 50 years, rob someone who worked 50 years, you can buy the exact same thing... get X views doing A, or X views doing B, it's still just X views.

You are kinda going off the rails here buddy.

> I guess I should make a youtube video about it, then it'd be valid even if it called out other youtubers? Help me out here, since apparently typing a comment in a text box is not creating content if it rubs you the wrong way.

Cool. Now you are making up arguments on my behalf and posting your retorts.

> You're basically saying, if you found a bug, don't talk about it, fix your own copy and just use that.

That doesn't even come close to being an analogy.

> What would you know about ambition?

I can explain that to you. Or you can go back and read the conversation again, slowly.

> What if my being better includes speaking my mind? Riddle me that.

Maybe try to be actually ambitious rather than being content with raging over people doing better than you.

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Post by k-mcgrady »

eksemplar wrote: post #6

I wonder what will happen to a generation obsessed with idols who don't contribute anything to society aside from memes, hot bodies and various rants. But I guess I'm just old and grumpy.

>> I wonder what will happen to a generation obsessed with idols who don't contribute anything to society

Unlike the previous couple of generations who contributed a global financial crisis, multiple unnecessary wars, massive environmental destruction, and a rising wave of racism and populism.

See, I can pick and choose things too.

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Post by KGIII »

arkadiytehgraet wrote: post #96
KGIII wrote: post #71

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Which one of those professions is a professional murderer?

At the very least - police officer and soldier.

Murder is unlawful killing. Neither of those are professional murderers, by default. Some have murdered, but that's not usually why we hire them.

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Post by blubb-fish »

eksemplar wrote: post #6

I wonder what will happen to a generation obsessed with idols who don't contribute anything to society aside from memes, hot bodies and various rants. But I guess I'm just old and grumpy.

> But I guess I'm just old and grumpy.

No, I think you have a point.

Re: Snapchat’s Influencers Are Fleeing to Instagram for Money

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Post by blubb-fish »

jonahx wrote: post #63
jonknee wrote: post #60

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What do you think social media celebrities are doing?

So you don't see a difference between, say, kim kardashian's instagram feed and what a top hollywood actress does?

there is a difference ... any actress is an artist actually co-producing art in form of movies or plays. kim kardashian is merely publicly living a hedonistic and materialisitc life - nothing more.

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Post by m-masa »

Snapchat to me is sharing your shaky drunken escapades at 3AM with your friends to let them know you made it home and survived the night. Instagram seems more like an endless observation of copy-and-paste, superficial things and people and places. It's evolved more into a (usually inaccurate) portrayal of status than anything else.
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