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Snapchat’s Influencers Are Fleeing to Instagram for Money

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Re: Snapchat’s Influencers Are Fleeing to Instagram for Money

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Post by kinkrtyavimoodh »

anilshanbhag wrote: post #14

I shared your skepticism of Snapchat (I use Instagram pretty often and browse Facebook multiple times a day - rarely post on it). I recently hopped on the Snapchat bandwagon and here are a couple of things I really liked: > Less focus on metrics. There is no likes and you only see views if you really want to. This is bad for influencers but I have to give it that it is a good break from Instagram/Facebook where peopl…

Would you feel like sending snaps if none of your friends sent you snaps or even replied to them by text message?

Re: Snapchat’s Influencers Are Fleeing to Instagram for Money

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Post by remarkEon »

barsonme wrote: post #13
jldugger wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are we talking about millenials, or boomers here? Cuz the complaint seems it could lobbied at pretty much anyone.

All of the above, although I think millennials and Gen Z are demonstrably worse when it comes to vanity. My mother's a 2nd grade teacher and does the usual "what do you want to be when you grow up?" bit each year. The last couple years she's had a very significant number of her students say "YouTube or Instagram star" instead of the usual firefighter/police officer/doctor/soldier/etc. (Also not the most disturbing tr…

>I'm really glad our country is at place where being funny on a social media website is enough to make a good living, but I can't help but feel there's something missing—something keeping them grounded.

I am the opposite of "glad" about this. It's highly concerning to me. My sister is also a school teacher and her students are just 4th graders and see this as legitimate life goals. Think of how that forms the development of a young child.

Re: Snapchat’s Influencers Are Fleeing to Instagram for Money

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Post by barsonme »

derefr wrote: post #29
barsonme wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All of the above, although I think millennials and Gen Z are demonstrably worse when it comes to vanity. My mother's a 2nd grade teacher and does the usual "what do you want to be when you grow up?" bit each year. The last couple years she's had a very significant number of her students say "YouTube or Instagram star" instead of the usual firefighter/police officer/doctor/soldier/etc. (Also not the most disturbing tr…

Is wanting to be a YouTube channel host really a marker of vanity? It's essentially saying that you want to be an actor, scriptwriter, director and entrepreneur for your own television series. It's the "solo app developer" equivalent for the entertainment industry. Like app developers, I would expect people to get into the business more out of a desire for freedom to set their own hours and not have a boss, than out…

I can agree with the extrovert/autonomy part.

To this, though

> Is wanting to be a YouTube channel host really a marker of vanity?

I'd say it's a good indicator. Not every channel will be like https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4mLlRa_dezwvytudo9s1sw or https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBackyardScientist with funny or informative skits.

Sometimes I'll open the 'search' part of Instagram and just scroll through the posts and wonder how so many people have their own brands when all the do is post selfies. I'd totally do it if I could. But it's definitely vanity.

Re: Snapchat’s Influencers Are Fleeing to Instagram for Money

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Post by [deleted] »

eksemplar wrote: post #19
princeb wrote: post #9

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they will create a rapidly evolving and flourishing entertainment industry, of which globally, america has the largest. this in turn boosts growth in related industries fashion, marketing, online retail, and of these the US is probably also the largest in all three.

Entertainment isn't really an industry though. It produces nothing of real value and relies on being financed by those who do. There is a reason Bollywood is a more profitable "industry" than Hollywood, and it's not because their product is better. It's because their society actually nets a profit from production that they can then spend on leisure. If our best and brightest young children become internet celebrities…

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Re: Snapchat’s Influencers Are Fleeing to Instagram for Money

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

barsonme wrote: post #13
jldugger wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are we talking about millenials, or boomers here? Cuz the complaint seems it could lobbied at pretty much anyone.

All of the above, although I think millennials and Gen Z are demonstrably worse when it comes to vanity. My mother's a 2nd grade teacher and does the usual "what do you want to be when you grow up?" bit each year. The last couple years she's had a very significant number of her students say "YouTube or Instagram star" instead of the usual firefighter/police officer/doctor/soldier/etc. (Also not the most disturbing tr…

> "YouTube or Instagram star" instead of the usual firefighter/police officer/doctor/soldier/etc...disturbing trend

Does your mother moralise her second graders' choices like this? (I'd guess not.) The number of people helped or even saved by movement leaders or other cultural icons can easily exceed the contributions of the public sector roles you described. I don't see why "Instagram star" is that different from "movie star" or "astronaut" for that matter. (It certainly seems better than "football player.")

Re: Snapchat’s Influencers Are Fleeing to Instagram for Money

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Post by bduerst »

eksemplar wrote: post #6

I wonder what will happen to a generation obsessed with idols who don't contribute anything to society aside from memes, hot bodies and various rants. But I guess I'm just old and grumpy.

I was reading an SCP involving memetic viruses and couldn't help but think about how much internet memes drown out the chance to read newer content.

/get off my lawn

Re: Snapchat’s Influencers Are Fleeing to Instagram for Money

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

kinkrtyavimoodh wrote: post #31
anilshanbhag wrote: post #14

I shared your skepticism of Snapchat (I use Instagram pretty often and browse Facebook multiple times a day - rarely post on it). I recently hopped on the Snapchat bandwagon and here are a couple of things I really liked: > Less focus on metrics. There is no likes and you only see views if you really want to. This is bad for influencers but I have to give it that it is a good break from Instagram/Facebook where peopl…

Would you feel like sending snaps if none of your friends sent you snaps or even replied to them by text message?

Yup. I like being able to share without anyone being obligated to see it. Sharing on Facebook carries, for me, some social burden--I don't want to pollute friends' timelines with things only I find fun. But on Snapchat, if you're watching my Snaps, you chose to swipe left into them. (I really hate messaging on Snapchat, in part due to its lack of end to end encryption.)

Re: Snapchat’s Influencers Are Fleeing to Instagram for Money

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Post by Keeeeeeeks »

eksemplar wrote: post #19
princeb wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

they will create a rapidly evolving and flourishing entertainment industry, of which globally, america has the largest. this in turn boosts growth in related industries fashion, marketing, online retail, and of these the US is probably also the largest in all three.

Entertainment isn't really an industry though. It produces nothing of real value and relies on being financed by those who do. There is a reason Bollywood is a more profitable "industry" than Hollywood, and it's not because their product is better. It's because their society actually nets a profit from production that they can then spend on leisure. If our best and brightest young children become internet celebrities…

One could say the same of lobbying, but there's still a funnel from lobbying straight into government/private sector (and vice versa, depending on who you ask).

Whether you like it or not, entertainers produce goods or entertainment-related services within an economy. That's the definition of an industry.

Re: Snapchat’s Influencers Are Fleeing to Instagram for Money

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Post by barsonme »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #35
barsonme wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All of the above, although I think millennials and Gen Z are demonstrably worse when it comes to vanity. My mother's a 2nd grade teacher and does the usual "what do you want to be when you grow up?" bit each year. The last couple years she's had a very significant number of her students say "YouTube or Instagram star" instead of the usual firefighter/police officer/doctor/soldier/etc. (Also not the most disturbing tr…

> "YouTube or Instagram star" instead of the usual firefighter/police officer/doctor/soldier/etc...disturbing trend Does your mother moralise her second graders' choices like this? (I'd guess not.) The number of people helped or even saved by movement leaders or other cultural icons can easily exceed the contributions of the public sector roles you described. I don't see why "Instagram star" is that different from "m…

I don't think it's moralizing to acknowledge that certain career choices lend themselves to vanity. I mean, we can come up with other less-than-desirable traits for other careers like programming, can't we?

Re: Snapchat’s Influencers Are Fleeing to Instagram for Money

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Post by jedberg »

eksemplar wrote: post #6

I wonder what will happen to a generation obsessed with idols who don't contribute anything to society aside from memes, hot bodies and various rants. But I guess I'm just old and grumpy.

You mean like movie stars? We've had at least four generations now obsessed with movie stars. It's also been the century of greatest achievement for humankind.

Correlation isn't causation though. :)

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