Here is a slide from the PRISM leaks:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/prism-...
#neverforget
Under iOS 11, authorities won’t be able to image your device without a passcode
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#212I have never seen a company both so technically capable and supportive of user privacy as Apple. It stands completely apart from all of the tech giants of today.
Apple is a partner of the NSA's PRISM program.
We know that since Snowden, if you remember those revelations.
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#213I have never seen a company both so technically capable and supportive of user privacy as Apple. It stands completely apart from all of the tech giants of today.
Apple is a partner of the NSA's PRISM program. We know that since Snowden, if you remember those revelations.
Yeah but what choice do you have? Apple is the lesser evil here.
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I see your point, but: That's not an excuse, that's an explanation. It is anti freedom whether that's their end game or not. I don't really care about Apples motives, I care about the product. Really, Apple is anti Nothing and pro only one thing: money. Everything else is a corollary. Including ease of use, freedom, and privacy. It's just that those things do matter to me (and GP).
What's an example of a common use case in which Apple is anti-freedom in your opinion?
Not being able to unlock your phone or sideload programs. I don't accept the "we know what's best for you" argument. They could have allowed jailbreaking and added huge warnings.
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There is another, more fundamental difference. With Apple, you are the customer. With Google, you are the product.
Yet this "fundamental difference" does not change the fact that both companies' devices provide exactly the same amount of privacy out of the box, while only the Google device is truly yours to put whatever software you want on it, down to the OS.
The Google device is NOT truly yours because you have to look for cracks if you want to root it or remove the Google stuff. The law may also be against you if you crack it. You are just a guest on your device...you are "licensed" to use it just like you get license to play music on spotify, watch movies on netflix etc...nothing is owned anymore and very few people care.
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Allowing side loading of apps would not impact usability in anyway. Edit: It would massively increase the usability, allowing any apps to be installed, not just Apple approved apps, making the phone more usable to many people. Back in the day I had to buy a dev account just to load an emulator I wanted to use (it was open source) without rooting.
That is objectively untrue. Every system that has allowed sideloading of apps has been compromised by that very feature.
"Every society that has been allowed to drive cars has had car accidents."
I know the risks, I want to do it anyway. I don't want a nanny over my head.
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To answer your first question: a lot. Apple makes all your data locally encrypted by default, in Messages, Siri, iCloud, Maps, etc - they don't have the key to access it. See more at https://www.apple.com/lae/privacy/approach-to-privacy/
All of a user's device data is encrypted by default on Android as well. In this respect, they are no different.
The difference is that Google owns the keys that encrypt your files. Services like GDrive, GMail, Google Photos, Assistant, all depend on processing your data in the cloud. Apple does all of that locally (because they can't access any of it otherwise), trading some scalability and sophistication for privacy.
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#219Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is objectively untrue. Every system that has allowed sideloading of apps has been compromised by that very feature.
"Every society that has been allowed to drive cars has had car accidents." I know the risks, I want to do it anyway. I don't want a nanny over my head.
That may be a better analogy than you intend. The problem with cars is that everyone suffers the consequences of your driving. In fact, you may have the least exposure to the carbon monoxide, pollution, or even accident risk. Pedestrians, cyclists, property owners, and other drivers are all at risk of your driving.
For that reason, societies tightly regulate car ownership and driving. More so than phones: I don’t need a license to use a phone, nor do I have to register my ownership or have it regularly inspected.
But technology these days has this same characteristic: Others bear the costs of your decision. Every device connected to the internet is a DDOS vector.
I don’t want you deciding whether to keep your device up to date with the latest security patches, because if you (and a few million others) don’t, GitHub is down for me.
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That is objectively untrue. Every system that has allowed sideloading of apps has been compromised by that very feature.
"Every society that has been allowed to drive cars has had car accidents." I know the risks, I want to do it anyway. I don't want a nanny over my head.
Bear in mind that the vast vast majority of apple's customers have 0 interest in sideloading apps- if you're apple it makes a great deal of sense to trade off security for the masses against a few power users who can't sideload apps occasionally here and there