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Under iOS 11, authorities won’t be able to image your device without a passcode

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Re: Under iOS 11, authorities won’t be able to image your device without a passcode

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Lying to a federal agent is a crime. Edit: No seriously. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Making_false_statements . Refusing to unlock your device is one thing. Claiming that you did unlock it but in fact just used a "duress passcode" is a lie and can land you in jail.

Has the 5th amendment been officially repealed?and the 4th?

The 5th amendment does not protect you from lying. And the 4th has nothing to do with lying either.

Re: Under iOS 11, authorities won’t be able to image your device without a passcode

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Technically, they do. You just have to pay more for it (aka buying a developer account).

Actually you don't even need to pay for it these days. Free Apple Developer accounts can side load apps through Xcode

You need to pay for the Mac to use Xcode though...

Re: Under iOS 11, authorities won’t be able to image your device without a passcode

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Apple is adding a kill switch to iOS 11 that lets you discreetly disable Touch ID (and presumably Face ID) by hitting the power button 5 times. And of course if you're concerned you can opt out of Touch or Face ID entirely and simply use a pass-code. https://www.theverge.com/2017/8/17/16161758/ios-11-touch-id-...

Thanks for sharing that info, but I think the problem is that Apple is marketing these methods of identification as methods of authentication. Sacrificing security for convenience. Even if they have a kill switch in place, the users least likely to know about it are the users who are most likely to use insecure methods to "secure" their phone, I would think.

There were two sentences in his post. You only read the first one.

Re: Under iOS 11, authorities won’t be able to image your device without a passcode

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In the February 2017 case of a California artist who was questioned at San Francisco International Airport upon re-entry, after he finally agreed to unlock his iPhone, it was taken out of his sight for several minutes and could have been imaged without his knowledge. Under iOS 11, unless the artist, Aaron Gach, decided to actually give up the passcode (rather than type it in himself), he could at least have been reas…

Rubber Hose Cryptanalysis? Can't wait for iOS to have the deniability factor of having different passwords unlock different things :) For the sensitive stuff, have periods of time that require several computers to solve cryptographic challenges in order to unlock the phone. Some of which may be your friends' devices. If they don't hear from you and your intended hosts in a certain amount of time, phone stays locked.…

So, since the vendor will undoubtedly inject themselves into this complex situation for 'usability', you are basically arguing for devices that are never actually controlled by their user because terrorism. Good 9/11 argument there.

Re: Under iOS 11, authorities won’t be able to image your device without a passcode

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Android has required the user to enter the unlock code to back up the device for years now. This is Apple playing catch-up.

Android = Google (No, aosp is unusable, and Google is working to make it more unusable). Google = no privacy Therefore, Android = no privacy Q.E.D

I am not a diehard android, but i'm replying to you from a LineageOS phone without the Gapps, using microg as an alternative to the google services, and firefox as a browser.

Privacy is achievable on Android. However, I do agree it os very involved.

Re: Under iOS 11, authorities won’t be able to image your device without a passcode

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That is very true, but I find it very sad that, as much as Apple is pro-privacy, it's very anti-freedom. I'd love to switch to a device as private as an iPhone, but at this point you're just renting the device from them.

It's not anti-freedom. It's just pro-ease-of-use and it's easier to guarantee a quality experience when there are less unknowns and less variables to account for. When everyone is using the same device with the same software, it's much easier to guarantee a great experience.

It is anti-freedom, in the sense that all apps are censored under Apple's own rules. They specifically said that apps do not constitude free speech.

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Actually you don't even need to pay for it these days. Free Apple Developer accounts can side load apps through Xcode

You need to pay for the Mac to use Xcode though...

Correct. You need to own a computer to run computer software.

Re: Under iOS 11, authorities won’t be able to image your device without a passcode

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> I wish Google Fi would support iOS devices. I'm curious - how can a carrier support and not support certain networks? Isn't that like saying I wish my ISP supported Linux?

Google Fi only allows Their Nexus and Pixel phones on their network. It is like an ISP seeing that you are running Linux and not letting your traffic through, just a bit more complicated than that. (SIM Card, Modems, Frequencies)

You can pop a tmobile SIM in the phone and they partially work, but Google Fi requires hardware support in the radio to work fully

It's not that they're blocking iOS, but more that iPhones don't support the network.

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