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With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Post by NewRapGod »

ghaff wrote: post #457
totony wrote: post #385

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What makes a keyboard better in your opinion? I once bought a 100$ mechanical keynoard and ended up going back to my 10$ keyboard because it was familiar I am not sure if the difference between keyboards is that price dependant

A lot of people (including myself) like long-throw clicky keyboards given the choice. However, especially with the wholesale shift to laptops, they're far less familiar to people than they once were. I do like my mechanical keyboards but I admit that I use other keyboards so much of the time that I don't feel I "have" to use them like I once did. (And, indeed, I may have to adjust a little if I haven't used them in a…

There are multiple laptop models on the narket with mechanical keyboards, from Razer, Acer, Asus, etc.

Mechanical keyboards are objectively bettet in that all top competative touch typists use them.

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Post by izacus »

djrogers wrote: post #585
izacus wrote: post #127

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Please don't spread lies :/ 300-400$ range phones work perfectly well for years and there's now even a staggering amount of pretty good phones covering most usecases from companies like Xiaomi that can be bought for as low as 150$ and they still run about as well as an iPhone 5c.

So they run as well as a 4 year old phone with a 5 year old CPU/GPU? Sounds... not good. Not to mention you can get that 5C for about $100 today, so $50 less than your Xiaomi.

I've never seen a new 5C for that price shrug

My point was - they run well enough, do their job and are really affordable (after all, people were happy with performance of iPhone 5 / 5C weren't they ;).

iPhones (especially refurbished ones) aren't here (I do understand that situation in US is a bit better).

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Post by taternuts »

noncoml wrote: post #249
bluthru wrote: post #38

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>If anything there is a regression with the absence of TouchID. FaceID fulfills that role.

Will it be as reliable and fast as TouchID?

TouchID is amazingly reliable and fast, unless your hands are sweaty or greasy at all. In this case, almost every single time I have to click the home button multiple times until it stops trying to read my print and show the pin prompt for manual entry. Even then, it'll sometimes register the previous click (which is supposed to just bring up the pin screen) as a fingerprint unlock attempt, and will attempt to fill in the pin again right in the middle of me manually entering it, making it fail 3 or more times before I can enter my pin.

I've tried disabling it completely in favor of the pin, but in all honesty the 90% of the time my hands aren't sweaty or greasy it works so much faster that I just deal with the 10% and keep it enabled.

These could just be sweaty guy problems, but I'm definitely looking forward to face unlock.

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Post by dragonwriter »

chimeracoder wrote: post #639
typomatic wrote: post #613

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People are getting relatively poorer in comparison to their health care costs. So yes, we have been getting worse, and at some point the character of a problem changes into a crisis, which can seem "sudden".

> People are getting relatively poorer in comparison to their health care costs. That's not really true; total expenditures have increased, but that's largely because the treatments and care that people are choosing are different (and more expensive) than previous ones. Put another way: today you can still get the same type and quality of care that was available in the 1960s, and it'll be cheaper than it was in the 1…

> Put another way: today you can still get the same type and quality of care that was available in the 1960s,

No, in many cases you can't because the techniques and absence of procedural and other safeguards are no longer up to the standard of care in the profession, older drugs are no longer produced, etc.

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Post by dragonwriter »

kobeya wrote: post #607
wil421 wrote: post #594

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Seriously, if I believe what everyone comments on HN I would think hospitals are turning sick or injured people away.

My mama taught me to not talk about things I don't know anything about. I wish more people listened to their mamas. To the curious Europeans out there, if you lose your job you can stay on your job's health plan for 18 months while you look for new work. If you're unemployed that long then you'd qualify for Medicaid after that, the government insurance program for the poor. If for whatever reason you really didn't ha…

> Put another way: today you can still get the same type and quality of care that was available in the 1960s,

If you can pay the full premiums, including the part your employer paid while you were employed.

> If unemployed that long then you'd qualify for Medicaid after that, the government insurance program for the poor.

You don't qualify for Medicaid based on duration of unemployment; whether, and in what form, you would qualify for Medicaid depends on income, assets, and state you live in (Medicaid is a state-run program with some federal standards, though even the most basic broad-strokes qualifications differ between states, especially between those participating in the expansion under the ACA and those not.)

> If for whatever reason you really didn't have insurance you will nevertheless never be turned away from any hospital emergency room.

But will be booted into the street from the ER after stabilization without treatment of the underlying condition.

> This "die in he street because you have no insurance" is a myth and total hogwash.

Except that people do, in fact, die because of lack of health insurance in the US.

http://www.pnhp.org/excessdeaths/health-insurance-and-mortal...

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Post by StreamBright »

Tsiklon wrote: post #244
StreamBright wrote: post #107

1000 USD phone, still no audiophile option to listen to music. I am extremely disapointed with the direction Apple is going with all of this "we remove X because you do not need it anymore" approach.

I always thought the Audiophile option was an external DAC? Though the DAC that iOS devices have shipped with was traditionally quite strong. I have an Oppo HA-2 and it works great with my iOS devices (though i use it as a portable amp for my work computer). There's also the likes of Audeze who are shipping Headphones and Earphones with a Lightning cable DAC in addition to the usual 3.5mm TRS jack.

Quoting from the article I linked you:

>>Analysis & Recommendations >>As expected, the analog audio output of the iPhone 6S Plus is extraordinarily good. It has only >>half the distortion of the already extraordinary iPhone 6 Plus.

>>Apple has more smart people and more resources than any other audio company on the planet, so as >>we see when it comes to audio engineering, the iPhone easily outdoes many so-called "audiophile" >>products.

>>For enjoying music, you will probably get poorer performance if you waste your time and money >>with outboard DACs or headphone amplifiers; the iPhone already has the best there is.

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Post by freehunter »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #348
jdietrich wrote: post #206

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Diminishing returns kick in at a remarkably low price point, especially outside the US. $250 gets you a Xiaomi Mi A1 - a phone with a 1080p display, a full metal body, 4GB of RAM, 64GB of flash, a fast 8-core processor and guaranteed software updates directly from Google. http://www.mi.com/in/mi-a1/ Is a $750 iPhone really three times better than that phone? Is it even 5% better? If I were an Apple shareholder, I'd b…

It is better. The MacOS/iMessage/Facetime/Time machine ecosystem is is pretty awesome, and if you don't want to spend your time and effort trying to fix Windows BS and removing their malware, then an extra thousand or two is worth it. Plus, if something goes wrong, you get great customer service at the Apple Store. I've done the Windows/Android thing, it's a pain in the ass to keep up with all the stuff. As I get old…

I'm in exactly the same boat. I've done IT for enough years, I do it as a job, when I come home I don't want to do it anymore. I refuse to fix the computer problems of anyone outside of my immediate family unless I'm getting paid, and no one pays me to do my own computer maintenance.

I switched from a custom-built desktop PC to a laptop then to a Macbook a while back. I switched from an Android phone with super heavy customization and a flashed ROM to a Windows Phone (and after that platform died, an iPhone). Did I give up some flexibility? Yes. Did I spend more money? Yes. But I made a conscious choice to do so because I hate to be my own IT guy.

If I need a new computer, I don't comparison shop to see if Lenovo or Asus or Acer or HP has the best features for the price or reliability scores or any of that. I buy the latest Macbook. If I need a new cell phone, I don't look up who the best is. I buy an iPhone. I pay a little bit more for peace of mind. It makes me happy.

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Post by twblalock »

GuB-42 wrote: post #280
Kluny wrote: post #218

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I also know a guy who made his living for many years repairing and reselling iPhones, who simply buys the top of the line as soon as it comes out and resells the old one to pay for it, at as close to full price as he can get away with. Since he always gets the most specc'd out phone available, treats it very carefully, always inside an otterbox, and is a pretty decent salesman, he usually gets his price. He also clai…

A good strategy, however he is not really the owner of the phone. He is essentially renting it from the next buyer. One consequence is that he has no option but treat is carefully, use a case, a screen protector, etc.. which is kind of ironic considering how much effort is put on the exterior design of the phone. Selling the phone also has a non-zero cost : you have to find a buyer and make the transaction. In that g…

> One consequence is that he has no option but treat is carefully, use a case, a screen protector, etc.. which is kind of ironic considering how much effort is put on the exterior design of the phone.

Honestly, the resale value for damaged iPhones is still pretty good. Even if the screen is cracked, you can get a few hundred dollars.

I just searched for "iPhone 7 cracked screen" on eBay and filtered by completed listings, and there are quite a few that sold in the past few days for over $300 after receiving quite a few bids.

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Post by bogomipz »

grecy wrote: post #469
ksec wrote: post #248

If we take a look from a Global Perspective, US has the cheapest iPhone ( All prices excluding sales Tax ), and everywhere else had it more expensive. i.e The $1K Prices may be making a big waves in US, but elsewhere in the world they have been paying that much for an iPhone already. And in terms of iPhones / Population / Apple Store, the US has it most. While in Japan 60% of the Smartphone are iPhone ( i.e Higher th…

> US has the cheapest iPhone It is interesting to note among Developed countries, the US has the cheapest everything . Cars, computers, building materials, clothes, TVs. You name it, it is cheapest in the USA. It is interesting to note this is because people in the US have much less disposable income than people in other developed countries. Companies can charge higher prices in other developed countries because peop…

>"It is interesting to note this is because people in the US have much less disposable income than people in other developed countries"

I am curious did you just make this up? This is a completely bogus statement. The US is actually amongst highest per capita disposable income countries. See:

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/markets-economy/090616/...

https://www.currencyfair.com/blog/which-country-has-highest-...

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Post by [deleted] »

dmoy wrote: post #494
grecy wrote: post #469

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> US has the cheapest iPhone It is interesting to note among Developed countries, the US has the cheapest everything . Cars, computers, building materials, clothes, TVs. You name it, it is cheapest in the USA. It is interesting to note this is because people in the US have much less disposable income than people in other developed countries. Companies can charge higher prices in other developed countries because peop…

> people in the US have much less disposable income than people in other developed countries Is this true? I always heard it was the other way around: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income http://www.investopedia.com/articles/markets-economy/090616/... And median: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_income

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